Philippe Coutinho

Nah no hate for Wijnaldum either, nice bloke but I prefer we play someone who does not holdup play that much and is part of our future but no hate for him

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Not good enough, even not what is needed to progrss the team, is the same as hate on this forum. Get up to date. :wink:

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Now your getting paranoid. :rofl: Give up you canā€™t win!

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vI6EMUHrF9s

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Theyā€™re skint and heā€™s probably on big money. Koeman will want to bring in a couple of players in the summer, so Barcelona need to get a few off the wage bill and bring in some much needed transfer cash.

Plus Messi didnā€™t like the way Coutinho machine washed his boots when Messi clearly told him to hand wash them in cold water

It was mostly a case of mixed up thinking.

  • They misidentified who and what he was (he is not Iniesta).
  • Their interest turned into action in large part with a view to replicate for them his relationship with Neymar for Brazil (itā€™s easy to forget how good Brazil looked for 12 months or so early in Titeā€™s tenure after Phil established himself into the side).
  • Then when Neymar left they followed through with the purchase despite the vision (partnering him with Neymar) was no longer possible.

So they bought a very expensive player on a panic with no vision of how to use him and at a time when there was no willingness to help him find a solution.

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Thatā€™s what happens when club owners/presidents buy the players and the manager is left putting the pieces together.

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DembĆ©lĆ© Aug 2017 ā‚¬135 mil
Coutinho Jan 2018 ā‚¬135 mil
Griezmann Jul 2019 ā‚¬120 mil

Thatā€™s nearly ā‚¬400 mil more or less wasted.

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He is used to being a bench player since he left us.

:rofl: Who makes up this shit ?

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Probably people like you and me who are on forums, but also part time ā€œjournalistsā€.

:joy:

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Would need Mikey Edwards to morph into that piece of shit Woodward to deal with such a shit deal. Barca would have to pay us another 100mil for us to take Coutinho back. This player did his stuff back then, supported him when he played for us, burnt the bridge with his shithousery, now he can go play for his dream club Barcelona, if not the one in Spain, there is one in Ecuador.

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Where would Phil fit in now anyway?
Would he even want to come back?
Klopp would ask him to work for his living for a start.

I seriously think he can go languish anywhere and seeing his career dieā€¦I would not care. He was great for us like maybe for half a season and thought he was too good for usā€¦and the last straw, faking injury to get away.

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I liked his 1st season with us when he made an effort, then the rest came and I was glad to get rid of (my early fan status withered very quickly). I was extatic that we got soo much for him. :grin:

I swear every season since he has been sold to Barca for his ā€œdream moveā€ we kept getting linked to him. I dont think thats his fault , but seriously holy shit there comes a point in time where its just annoying. I feel like someone is trying to will him back to us, and the answer is probably Barcelona. They want us to come take him off their hands so they dont have to live with their mistake and dont have to pay us money. SHOW ME THE MONEY BARCA

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Iā€™m all for this.

The debt to Liverpool was sold on by us to a third party.

If Barca can convince that financial firm to suspend the debt and we can have Phil for free, that sounds like a great deal to me!

If you check the original article (in AS), I think someone doesnā€™t understand amortization:

el BarƧa aĆŗn debe varios plazos de amortiguaciĆ³n de su fichaje al Liverpool

Very roughly speaking, ā‚¬125m base fee after 3 years of amortization would leave about ā‚¬50m of Coutinho ā€œbook valueā€ ā€“ not an amount still owing to Liverpool.

Grain of salt where the Echo is concerned, but back in December it was reported with some level of precision that we had gotten all we were going to get for Coutinho.

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Iā€™m pretty sure this ā€œbarca still owe us xā€ rumour has been put to bed numerous times before by people far more reliable than Sports Bible.

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