Charlie Adam?
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I would, especially Mane. However, Dortmund won’t do the wages. They take players on the up, not on a big wage late in their career with little to no resale value.
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Glad I avoided this thread yesterday. Does everyone expect us to get 3 points every game? We’re top of the league despite all the pundits writing us off. Brentford were great yday. Our defence had a bad day. People slagging Salah for missing chances are just ridiculous
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Rather put Keita and/ or Firmino as part of exchange for Haaland… Or just sign Haaland with no one going the other way
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Add the corners to that. How many corners this season has Robbo floated in that the 'keeper easily collects.
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Some of our defending was crap, both positinally as a group and 1v1.
But I wouldn’t put all blame on our defence.
I wasn’t happy with the control of the game. It was too wild. Like kids playing Fifa and just murdering those L1+triangle & fast running buttons. Could be great to watch for the childish neutral fan, but from a technical and tactical point of view, it leads to nowhere.
And when it’s too wild between a Liverpool and Brentford side, it’s immediately a question for the much better team on paper; how did that happen and how did we let it happen?
We had a few little spells, but I never felt comfortable enough in our middle third, or against their central concentration of midfield/attacking players. We had to run back a lot and our last line wasn’t great. And then losing a lot of 1v1’s at the back. Should’ve kept the ball much better. Hence why I think we stuck with our decision to put Bobby on, Jota isn’t that linking player when he plays up top and we needed Bobby at least on the single 10 to gel our game. And we did that for a short spell, that was a small opportunity for us to kill the game.
Salah’s chance was a glorious one to put it to bed. Sorry, but he needs to take that chance much better than that. I was more fuming with that one rather than the Jota one in the first half.
We had enough warning signs and lessons throughout the game, I hoped we would find enough maturity to pull off a tight win after Jones got that goal.
In the end it was a combination of us not being clear, calm and accurate enough, them being a little bit uncomfortable to play against.
Small chance to go +3 before next Sunday missed, but we have to take that point and work on those few things that were not good.
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Not every game, but I suspect most would expect 3 points against a newly promoted team we scored 3 goals against and were ahead against on 2 occasions, of which the second occasion was about 20 minutes from full time.
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For me the midfield is a big concern with a lack of depth Keita’s injuries Elliot’s long term absence coupled with Milner’s age. The squad looks thin already.
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Thought I should put it here instead of the other thread I replied on: actually as a team, we do not do well in conversion rate. We were 12th overall last season. We are 9th thus far in this season. One statistic sticks out. We had the highest number of shots on goal last season and even this season thus far, but yet our conversion rate is only 12th and 9th respectively. This tells us something how clinical we are in finishing. I have always said that our forwards especially Salah, thrives on putting themselves in scoring positions as many times as possible so as to score compared to clinical strikers who might not need as many chances to put one away. And that is possibly because we have to note that none of our forwards are traditional strikers and we have to keep creating chances to ensure that we score in a game. And I have also mentioned for a couple of seasons now, this is something our forwards can improve, despite already being world class, scoring more often with lesser chances. Don’t get me wrong, they are already world class and possibly the best attack we have seen in decades, but there is absolutely also nothing wrong to say they can yet still improve on. This match was the best example, Salah was great again in this match, but at the absolute highest level, when he missed that golden opportunity to kill the game, that was a difference between one point and 3 points. And I know no one else is angrier than Salah himself.
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Didn’t see the game, but it seems to have been some roller-coaster! A bit stupid to concede the equaliser after finally going in front, but Brentford seems to deserve something from that game, so it’s good for them, they are better than what I’d have thought before the season started.
And our lads will hopefully show a reaction at Porto and against Cheaty, by tightening the back line and looking for more clinical finishing in front of goal.
Add to that Thiagos injury, Ox isnt rated and neither is Minamino so very thin.
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when you see the two chances created by once again overloading our fullbacks on a cross to the far post, you’ll understand the frustrations some of us are feeling about conceding those two goals.
Frustrating, because you have VvD and Matip marking a ghost at the penalty spot whilst Trent has two or three bodies who are pushing him around like a paperweight.
For the most part, scoring opportunities are acheived by creating mis-matches, whether numerically or physically. In both the second and third Brentford goals, our defender has no chance against the strikers who have a better angle of attack on the ball
Matip on both chances has lost his mark and retreating towards his own goal. Trent should be SCREAMING at him to drop into space to pickup the extra man. These are easily defendable opportunities, and I can see how Brentford would have trained on these opportunities.
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Genuinely don’t understand where this sentiment is coming from… Is that your own personal opinion or are you suggesting that the management team don’t rate either of them?
Finding the dope is what Souness said and we had 3 Matip, VVD and Fabinho. That’s a phenomenal chance or chances!
like Klopp said, they were bypassing the mid by long balls to the sidelines and crossing the ball to far post. So his answer was to remove a midfielder and put Bobby on, which really confused me. when Curtis put us up 3-2, the substitution wasn’t done yet. Should have hit the brakes on the sub and re-thought it.
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The bigger problem was that all through the match they were taking the piss out of our Zonal defensive system. It’s like all you have to do against us is field 2 central forwards and we have dopes all over the pitch.
The thing is though they were looking for dopes, they caught Robbo for their 1st (VVD had set up a good line but Robbo as he does went anticipating other stuff).
We in attack look for mismatches and get caught out. We ‘force’ the ball to predominantly Salah who can force the mismatch against 3 defenders but let’s face it most of the time 3 defenders are going to dominate that if we haven’t the movement to dupe a defender out of position.
Jones goal was due to a dope on their side, noone closed him down and that offered the chance.
All we needed to do was keep the ball and patiently look for the openings yet we kept forcing it, a lot due to lack of forward movement and combos. I was very dissappointed by our play mainly because we offer fantastic counter attack opportunities on a regular basis to our opponents.
Yeah, this thread is a bit wild to come to for the first time this long after the game. I want us to win every game, but it’s not going to happen. And on the days it doesnt happen, at least enjoy the ride, and that was a game that was an instant prem classic. Surely it was sloppy in lots of areas, maybe played too emotionally in others. But it was also created by a Brentford side massively over achieving right now. Before this game they had been behind for the fewest number of minutes of all teams in the Prem this season. In early, theres been an unblanced schedule, but they’re a fucking joy for a small promoted team.
But shit, we have weeks on here where we can win 3-0 and have half the side singled out for abuse and claims of not being good enough
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I’d take conceding 3 at Brentford and I’ll raise you conceding 7 at Villa.
The whole team were shit on Saturday but it was one of those games that I knew we would ha e problems. Put it behind us, learn and move on
Because they never get on.
I don’t think Klopp trusts/rates either of them.
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Been thinking about this, I think we have been spoilt a bit the last few seasons because we are in contention, and last season aside (which was down to injuries, Covid etc) there has been little to complain about.
So, unbeaten so far this season and we want to shred the likes of Fabinho and Robbo for mistakes on Saturday. We want to berate the boss for lack of game management and talk about midfield options. And we want to school TAA on free kicks and Salah on taking chances.
Ladies and Gents this was a bad day at the office, but we didnt lose. Poulsen or Jovanovic or Voronin were not playing. Hicks and Gillet are gone. Hodgson is a memory…
We deserved what we got on Saturday because we were poor. I am pretty annoyed about the foul on Jota, but in context of this game its actually meaningless. So, in that context lets trust the players, the manager and staff to address those details or issues that cost us on Saturday.
We are unbeaten, but my guess is we will lose at some point.
What then?
Klopp out?
Time for a reality check.
Spurs are fucking awful at the moment, but they beat City.
Chelsea are the best team in Europe, but they were comprehensively beaten by City.
Utd with Ronaldo are a real threat, but now Oles days are numbered after the Villa defeat.
I am not wishing to wear red tinted glasses, and criticism is often fair but on the whole, we are not too bad.
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