Had Taylor got to grips with Garnacho’s diving, he wouldn’t have needed hooking.
The one that convinced Slot that Bradkey needed to come off was given as a foul, but replays showed that Garnacho wasn’t touched before he leapt into the air.
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I thought Taylor had a much higher foul threshold in the second half.
The dive in the box was so obvious that it surely warranted a yellow.
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Wasn’t it someone on the bench that received the yellow? Taking one for the team.
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The lack of consistency is frustrating, and the laws on simulation are a fucking mess.
Kerkez got a yellow for a dive that was not nearly as egregious as Garnacho’s. I couldn’t believe he didn’t get a yellow for it with the rules in place
But I do have some sympathy for the refs on this because there is an expectation that they are expected to sort of read the player’s minds and know what they intended, and there is plenty of grey area between contact and the Micah Richard’s gif.
Personally, I would remove all sanctions for simulation, on the basis that refs have enough to think about without being mind readers.
But surely then you would just have players flopping around all over the place like salmon in the rapids.
Here we go… not sure what your last butler died from, but lifting the information shown clearly in the article, and googling the interview to see if it was true, watch from 2min mark for 30sec and verbatim… Cucurella actually says what my post mentioned.
Wrong for him to mention the weakness of MO in such setting, but what else can we expect from someone that comes across as a bit of a twat eh…
I don’t really care. I think it would largely self police, as players would be wary that if they get a reputation they just won’t get decisions at all.
I don’t think the threat of a card really stops diving now, as a yellow doesn’t really happen very often.
There is loads about how refs interpret the rules that pisses me off, like how it’s a different threshold for a foul in the box than anywhere else on the pitch. Or two exact same fouls get different decisions at different times in the game. The one that really annoys me is the licence defenders have to flop to the floor if they feel any contact on their back at all. Why is that always a foul? Isn’t that a form of simulation too?
Simulation was brought in to stop, the salmon flopping, definitely do not get rid, just enforce the rules.
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I think the evidence to date suggests that doesn’t happen, so I can’t see how that would improve under removal of that rule.
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Maybe I’m too much of a soft shite, because half the time I see a player get a card for simulation I think it’s more that they thought a tackle was coming and took action to avoid it. What are you meant to do? Just let 15 stones of centre back land on your ankle? I don’t think you can card something that only the player in his own mind knows if he’s done or not.
A bigger issue to me is a player feigning head injury. A lad taking a swan dive is ultimately just funny and a bit embarrassing. A player trying to game the head injury protocols is actively undermining a ruling brought in for player safely. And it is never, ever, punished.
Any player who goes down with a head injury, and it can be show received no significant impact to the head should receive an immediate three game ban.
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I’m not saying you are wrong but thats your opinion unless you have full knowledge of the inner working of the deal.
You don’t need to have a full knowledge of the inner workings. It’s transparently puff PR.
Liverpool had an offer on the table for weeks.
On deadline day, Guehi was in Liverpool kit doing his medical and media work, and a deal sheet had been submitted.
Then with an hour to go, Glasner has a strop, sabotages the replacement signing by telling him he won’t play, threatens to resign to Parish, who caves and pulls the deal.
Yeah, totally Liverpool’s fault.
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The Palace owner was also on record saying Palace couldn’t afford not to sell Guehi, so that alone would indicate an expectation of movement and a need to have proper options lined up.
Palace had lost Dougie Freedman, their DoF ahead of the window and have one of the lowest wage budgets in the league. These are probably bigger factors on the collapse of the deal.
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Whatever happened, that deal collapsing was the end of LFC as we know it.
Highly likely we don’t win again until Mindhunter Season 3 lands…
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Why oh why…can’t VAR check these incidents…we can see it on a slo mo replay…both benches(I’m sure can see it)…just let the 4th official something to do…and he can inform the ref…ugly boy could’ve been off…with 2 yellows for diving…geez it can’t be that hard…we watched on tv and saw the tom daley…
This is known for years and yes, it’s a weakness, which Klopp and Slot have been finding ways to cover. Salah himself was talking about how last season he had reached an agreement with Slot not to track back, so that he’d be able to pounce on the other end.
No one would care if Salah was close to his usual standards. This is pure click-bait.
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Exactly. Parish was as public about their need to get money for him now as I’ve ever seen an owner be about a key player. If ever there was a club who had their own independent interest in getting their replacement targets identified and internally aligned on it was them, regardless of what our level of interest and commitment was. If they argued that so late in the window all the players they’d identified had either already moved or became unavailable then I’d have some sympathy with them complaining we left it too late. Likewise if they said that the formalities for the player they were going to sign couldn’t be completed in the little time they were given once they knew they would have the money to sign the new player. But none of this is what is coming out of Palace. And their two slightly different stories (didn’t know they needed to find a replacement vs the internal infighting) don’t paint them in a positive light in terms of having their shit together. But then we know they don’t because of the Freedman issue. And once you start exploring that angle that is probably a fairly substantial portion of the explanation for why we spent all summer in a holding pattern on a player everyone knew we wanted.
I wouldn’t say it is click bait because this is a part of how they scored their winner. Salah starts tracking back and goes with Cucu for a fairly long way and then stops. I would say it was less out of laziness or lack of commitment, but more out of determining that if he followed the run any further he wouldnt be in a position to launch the counter. That would mean for the second week in a row we conceded a last minute winner in part (less this week than last week) because a player ignored their responsibility to defend in favour of thinking of glory
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As for the game as a whole I thought the balance of Chelsea praise and Liverpool criticism was way off from what I was seeing for most of the game.
They made life very tough for us with they way they defended all over the pitch and deserve credit for that, but they created next to nothing other than a wondergoal against the run of play. We also handled the challenge really poorly and so deserved some of the criticism. But by half time you would have to say that despite us not playing well we had created the chances to make their lead undeserved.
We then much improved in the second half to the point that the game had the feeling that we’d get the goals we needed without having to throw the kitchen sink at it. Which is why it is so frustrating and disappointing that we played the last 10 mins or so in exactly that way. It was really only in that period that Chelsea started doing anything constructive and created enough in that period that you cannot begrudge them the win.
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Completely agree with this. The score sets the narrative, but we were nowhere near as bad as is being made out.
I think it was on about 78mins when I said to my lad, that I think a winner was coming for us. It really felt that way.
Having said that, I disagree that we were only behind to a wonderstrike. It was a great hit, but one I’d expect any good player to nail if given the space and time to pick his spot that we gave him.
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