You’d make a great debate team…
Is it difficult to accept that it’s possible you think we played badly because of ref decisions, and Rab thinks ref decisions have been shit but that we have had shit ref decisions before and played better/won despite that, and that both are valid positions to look at it?
Is it such a big disagreement? Because looking at the discussion you guys are having, along with @RER, it reads worse than it is, you two look ready to take it outside, or spit on the ground, or something…
You basically both agree that ref was shit, and the small difference is that Rab thinks Evertonians would complain also had we won (I don’t agree with him either on that, by the way).
You basically both agree that we didn’t play well, but the difference is that you think we couldn’t have played better because of Oliver’s decisions, Rab saying we should have played better despite those and have done so in the past - I’m with Rab on this one by the way, I think it’s actually a fact (?!), though @RedOverTheWater wrote it in a way that I agree more with.
And instead of establishing what you see the same and what differently and move on, you focus on a small detail to prove his whole point wrong (ref grievances). As if you “lose” if you don’t convince him…
Big deal, you disagree on details. Do you guys have some kind of past beef?
Both can be true. The ref affected our performance, but we too were far from best. There were times where we looked like the team that lost to Plymouth.
I’m not sure who it was, I think perhaps @Sportbilly1966 who pointed out that the refereeing took away a huge part of our game in high pressing, so I think if you can’t do that and have to rejig in the middle of the game, it makes perfect sense that it would take you some time to adapt. If you think we looked like the team that lost against Plymouth that would also make sense given that they had to first adapt to a change in plans in Jones not playing, and then Gomez getting injured.
Point is, it’s always odd that people expect us to somehow be able to overcome refereeing displays like that where it’s not just major decisions, but every minor decision against us.
Slot is normally calm and collected.
He showed passion because he KNEW the team were cheated out of points.
Curtis reacted to that toerag inciting Liverpool supporters. Again, a bit of passion.
Oliver once again made himself the man of the hour.
He cheated us with the Pickford assault on Virgil.
He cheated us with the Hendo goal in that game.
He cheated us last night.
Most discerning supporters recognise the performance was sub par. Most also recognise that the bias/corruption/ arrogance/ineptitude of Oliver cost us two points.
Most discerning supporters understand that you can play below par and still be cheated.
You see it as an opportunity to have a go at our players and staff.
You are consistent with your inane criticism, but this is mind blowingly ridiculous.
Anyway, 7 points, no injuries, most players looking rested and ready. We’ll take that. But just to point out what the lads had to fight against last night:
Liverpool 63% ball possession
Everton 37%
Fouls
Liverpool 20
Everton 10
Everton players were fouled every 1.66 minutes when in possession
Liverpool once per 5.66 minutes
First goal from a non-existent free kick (think there were 7 of those dives).
Second goal from a blatant fouls on Konate not given. After a blatant foul on Salah not given in the other end.
As u quote day follows night…i knew when ‘he’ was adding time on…
Anyway…this morning we wake up to 7 point ahead of the league…I hope it’s only 1 match bans…the ‘other lot’ should also be charged…but we go on…this morning is the calm after the storm…deep breaths…and resume in a few days…
The push on Konate was egregious. A high looping ball with no pace (think of a fielder on the boundary in cricket with the ball hit in the air towards him), the CB jumping in the air to head it away, then pushed by the player not attempting to get the ball. A foul any day of the week, as he moved Konate out of his zone.
The ball had no pace, just the high apex of it meant that when Konate was bundled out the way, the ball bounced over Curtis to the Everton lad who headed it towards Tarkowski.
Football is a contact sport, so a header duel will involve jostling, which is fair. The Everton player made no attempt to head the ball, just timed his push.
