This exactly!!
Disagree. Point A influences point B but doesn’t lead to it.
We had a lot of sterile possession where we didn’t move it quickly or incisively enough to get them out of shape. We didn’t manage the game out at the end. We didn’t handle the long ball stuff that well.
None of that was just down Oliver. He should have been better but it’s disingenuous to say we didn’t play that well because of him.
He no doubt had a direct impact on the result but our overall performance was subpar.
But it does we could never try win ball back high up the pitch because you knew any contact or none would be blown up.

But it does we could never try win ball back high up the pitch because you knew any contact or none would be blown up.
Never? Not once? Impossible to?
The quicker you can hear refs mic the sooner the better you know why PMGOL have thought against for so long.

None of that was just down Oliver. He should have been better but it’s disingenuous to say we didn’t play that well because of him.
Completely disagree. It was just about the most one-sided refereeing performance I’ve ever seen. I’ve seen worst decisions in isolation, but I don’t think I’ve seen a game refereed in quite as nakedly biased fashion is all my years watching football.
(I don’t think it’s that Oliver hates us or anything - he has allowed the narrative of the Last Merseyside Derby to influence his refereeing.)
It that circumstances, where the referee has calibrated fouls for one side totally differently to the other, where one side is allowed to kick the other, and one side can get free kick after free kick by just falling on the floor, it is incredibly hard to be your best.
Yeah look at the 3 free kicks with no contact.
I was under the impression that a head injury required 30 seconds off the pitch. Maybe this game was an anomaly….
Right before the free kick for the Everton first Dom gets his leg clipped which makes him fall to 1 knee 45 seconds later the Everton none contact free kick is given.
I am trying to console myself, we are 7 points ahead in the league. Then, i think, we are playing an in form Wolves.
Its because 2 go down neither goes off.
What about the player Macca slapped in the first half
Konate was fouled with quite an aggressive shove/barge, just before the ball broke for Tarkowski to score the equalizer at the death. Konate has it under control and is going to head it clear as we collect our three points.
Just one example. They could do what they wanted to us. We go near them and they get a free kick. Massively uneven. Not to mention their simulation not getting pulled up, for example the dive for the free kick for their first goal. No contact, he jumps up, Oliver obliges with a free kick.
It was barnyard agricultural crap from them, but Oliver allowed it, and we could not even try to compete without conceding a free kick.
It just felt massively corrupt, watching it.
Then when you factor in the sources of payment for the ref, it absolutely does not pass the sniff test. The PGMOL will circle the wagons around their man and move on. It needs to be disbanded, with a new thing emerging that is fit for purpose.
Just as a matter of interest, does anyone still think the referees in this country are ‘inept’ or ‘incompetent’ as opposed to being fucking corrupt cheats which a number of us have claimed for years?
Respectfully, I think the emotion is still raw and it’s leading to hyperbole here.
He was shit, he was desperate to give cards and definitely should have made better decisions for their goals.
But if we walk out of their with a 2-1 win Everton fans would be voicing their own perceived frustrations at him. I think he was consistently awful throughout and we were on the worse end of that.
If you think that’s the best we could play in the circumstances then fine. Personally I’ve seen us get a bunch of dodgy decisions and still play better. As much as you can point to their first not being a free kick, it’s not Oliver switching off when it’s passed into Beto.
Because its a foul open to interpretation.

But if we walk out of their with a 2-1 win Everton fans would be voicing their own perceived frustrations at him. I think he was consistently awful throughout and we were on the worse end of that.
I agree, it was a very poor refereeing performance in general.
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Liverpool got a good point, go seven clear, and it leaves them in a good position.
They have Wolves at home at the weekend and they just need to go there and pick it up.
So what Everton decisions are comparable to ours which were contentious.

Because its a foul open to interpretation.
It wasn’t a foul was it? I thought he pulled the game up for a head injury. We started the game again in possession