Post match: Liverpool v Aston Villa (EPL 20/5/23 3pm)

End of the day, the team had nearly 80 over minutes to get 2 goals but they only got one back by the 89th minute aka the team didn’t create enough good and clear goal-scoring chances from the 27th minute to the 89th minute.

Essentially, it is not good enough for a team who wants to play in the CL. LFC didn’t get CL because they didn’t beat the teams that they should be comfortably dispatching for 3/4 of the entire season.

As for this match, it should be a watershed moment for everyone related to the club.

For FSG, they need to compete with a cash flush Newcastle (before they get flagged by FFP), Man City ( assuming they somehow get acquitted with all the 115 charges with their army of lawyers), a Man United ( that has a decent manager at helm) and a young & hungry Arsenal who is not afraid to flex their new found tv money from the new CL qualifications. We can have all the best scouting but if the money ain’t there, it is no use.

For Klopp, he needs to react quicker in terms of tactical shifts. 3/4 of the season pissed away because he and his entire management team failed to identify a way to hold the fort defensively while TAA goes on his forward runs. The mentality of the squad was shit as well for the first half of the year.

For the fans, we need to accept that unless there is a dramatic shift in FSG’s transfer policy and willingness to sell to another buyer, there are gonna be a few consecutive seasons where LFC will be in Europa League and will win a few domestic cup trophies but far from challenging the top in the terms of league positioning. It might get more dire if Klopp leaves the club at the end of his contract.

Liverpool’s transfer policy cannot be dictated by fans shitting the bed because of what other clubs might do.

I want this club to get back to what we are good at. Finding value, being intelligent in the market and using every trick in the book to wring the maximum out of every penny we spend.

That’s when City fear us. They aren’t scared of us trying to compete on financial terms.

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Well how much data on fouls, penalties given/not given have you analysed?

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Most of the time no one has a clue what you’re on about anyway. Could be anything. I just took a stab in the dark.

Which incidently …

Who can finish the quote, famous comedy series.

[quote=“The-AllMightyReds, post:230, topic:3537”]
me it leans more on the soft side than clear.

So, still a penalty then?

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They should have been able to get Jones fitter quicker to rescue our season. :grinning:

Find it fairly odd that people would use this in support but also turn around and claim that those refs were biased against Liverpool/rubbish at refereeing anyway.

I for one very much believe that most of those referees don’t even understand the rules, so take their claims with a very large scoop of salt.

I’m guessing this is some sort of trap and there is a world-renowned data analyst called Tompkins? Or are you talking about Sportswriter Paul Tomkins?

EDIT: I don’t read the Tomkins Times which is what I assume you are referring to. But it didn’t pass my ‘bias’ sniff test. I don’t hold that against him. He clearly has a niche here he’s aiming at, baiting Liverpool fans with an emotional write up after a season-ending draw, to hook them to buy a subscription for the remainder of the article. Its an article with lots and lots of opinion but very little to explain how he came to his conclusions. Again, a reflection of writing a short post-match summary to Liverpool fans, I don’t expect the world in terms of depth, but then I am unsure what to take from an opinion piece like this?

He neglects to mention some early calls that went in our favour, instead focusing on the latter stages of the match where the ref lost control and in essence, by being too weak to punish them, encouraged Villa to play their shithousery tactics of breaking our rhythm through time wasting and diving - that I completely agree with Tomkins on. I think that ref had a shocker and I’ll add him to my list of refs lacking the intestinal fortitude to ref a tight match…its a long list.

I enjoyed reading his opinion on the match, don’t get me wrong. But if a very anger-tinged write-up featuring swearing is meant to convince me that someone has taken the time to analyse the game (for instance, it doesn’t appear there was much data gathering that took place for the writeup) then I think we have different definitions of analysis.

𝗡𝗘𝗪: Liverpool have written to the refereeing governing body to seek an explanation for the contentious decisions which ended their late bid for Champions League football. #lfc [chris bascombe - telegraph]

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Piss easy, link to this thread, job done

Just used it to say the interpretation is subjective, not black and white as some were making out.

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And this is the problem: rules and laws should not be open to interpretation.

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Lets hope the Jurgen fine proves to be a watershed moment for LFC. First game, and it gives us our first opportunity, to start challenging the incompetence of the numpty’s officiating our games

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This is Tompkins to a tee. However, maybe in along the lines of a broken clock being right twice a day, he has recently pointed out statistics in two areas that are really hard to argue away as anything other than unbalanced treatment - the relative difficult for Mo being given fouls, and Liverpool in getting getting penalties.

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Put it this way. When was the last time you heard about City or Utd drawing a match they should have won because of dodgy refereeing decisions?

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Got to call this one out. 1972 has their opinions. Whilst the though police haven’t taken over yet, very welcome to them.

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100% this.

Another good question would be: When was they last time they won a match they should have lost or drawn because of dodgy ref decisions?

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Mascot is talking about his analysis on fouls, penalties, decisions given/not given article. Not the write up for this game.

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