If you include CL we have won 3 games out of 10 games and are conceding shitloads of goals. This isn’t a blip something is majorly wrong.
Whether it’s management or players or both, there are major problems everywhere.
I said at start of season I felt this season we would come up short. We haven’t touched the midfield for years and we have 4 players that never get on the pitch and a few who miss big chunks of the season.
The above and our top players losing their form (only Ali performing) and this is going to be a long season.
Salah is a major worry. He was poor from Jan to end of season, gets a big contract and is worse than the end of last season.
I don’t put it all down to Mane but Nunez is a strange signing. He isn’t starting games and a “finished” Bobby is picked ahead of him.
I wonder whether Klopp has got him on the training field and now doesn’t rate him as much but something isn’t right there.
But it’s lack of investment that’s come back to haunt us. We put all our eggs in the basket of the lad who went to Madrid and then didn’t get anyone. We now have Melo who is clearly unwanted as James Milner is still getting on ahead him.
Liverpool have to get out of this mindset of well if our no1 target is unavailable we’ll leave it.
Our net spend again is crazy low. You wouldn’t think we nearly won everything last year. The club have never been so rich yet we don’t splash the cash a bit,
Agree if it came strictly down to form, however Ibou isn’t anywhere near taking responsibility for organizing the back line and rallying the troops. Matip marginally better, but I wouldn’t be confident of that pair being able to organize themselves for a large chunk of the game.
That would be fine if we actually had any of that organisation but currently we have zero. They look like they’ve never played with eachother before.
Bar Kostas the defence and midfield was our most experienced and what you’d argue 1st choice yet we look clueless, one tiny mistake away from full on panic mode at any given time during the match.
Ignoring signings, the defensive and midfield unit that started the game yesterday should be streets ahead of anything Brighton can offer up front, yet they shipped 3 goals and conceded first, AGAIN.
The goals we conceded yesterday were sloppy. Losing possession in our own defensive third, a lack of urgency or fight and basically being all over the place. The irony of the first two goals we conceded being Klopp tactics 101. Regain possession in the opposition final third and take advantage of the disorganised defence.
While Trent is all at sea defensively, he is being exposed countless times through simple overloads and 2 on 1 situations. Situations that simply shouldn’t happen. Brightons second and third goals being case in point.
To me, we look like we need a pretty hefty tactical change. Whatever things Klopp and his team have been discussing and working on are clearly not working.
Not sure if I’m understanding you correctly, but I think Jürgen has alluded to how his instructions weren’t getting through well enough which why there has been gaps in our play. I think if it were an issue of focusing too much on individuals rather than the overall team, then we wouldn’t have had the success we’ve had previously with our defensive game, especially that entire stretch where barely any team could play around us.
Maybe that’s simply not how this team works?
Again, I think where we’re disagreeing is that what you hold out to be ground truths in coaching may simply not be anything that the management team think works for us.
That said though, your comments about the pressure on the ball made me wonder if that’s why we’re seeing Firmino play a lot more than he was expected to by many prior to the season. Easing a new player into our system is hard enough, let alone when that role is what often is the trigger for our pressing. I’m guessing the plan is for him to get the team into a better defensive state, before slowly easing Núñez into the team. That would make sense to me as to why Jota was preferred to come in rather than Núñez despite withdrawing from the international match early because he wasn’t feeling like he could make it through the match.
Is Trent playing to Jurgen’s orders. All through the game yesterday he ran around the pitch like a headless chicken. Anywhere from right back to left wing. Every team we play against now know that there is a huge space down our right flank and ninety percent of their attacks and goals conceded come from there. Surely Klopp can see what is happening game after game and should be sorting this recklessness out during a game or on the training pitch. VVD is a shadow of the player he’s been over the last few seasons for us. Matip was poor yesterday but apart from that I think he’s had a decent season up till now. A top four place is looking very doubtful as things are at the moment. Finally Klopp looks like he hasn’t had a decent nights sleep in months, after this defensive performance I can understand why.
No. A win wouldn’t paper over the cracks. If we won yesterday, the problems wouldn’t have been hidden. Klopp will be well aware of the problems. Klopp will acknowledge there are problems. Quite obvious.
Had a “day” yesterday. Very late finish and only had a fleeting ear on the game. Watching MOTD now. Anybody have any positivity to throw in here please?
Dispite concedeing 3 and looking fat Alisson was good in goal and saved us an imbarrassing loss, he did have problems with distribution mind however I reckon he was gettingpretty nervous.
This missrepresents what happened though, Brighton had 6 clear cut chances, so in fact they should have beaten us 6-3. No team should be getting 6 clear chances to score at Anfield, hell they shouldn’t get that many chances at any ground. It shows our defence and midfield are playing terribly.
