Post Match: Liverpool v Burnley (EPL 21/1/21 8pm)

Why don’t you try to explain to an obvious idiot then? You see I utterly fail to see how mental fatigue in a person paid to play sport can hugely reduce their performance when people in massively stressful jobs can continue to operate at a good standard.

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What’s more stressful? Working with the dying and facing death on hugely long shifts or kicking a football.

Really? Come on folks, this is madness.

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Sometimes it’s best not to argue with an idiot,trust me.

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That’s why I don’t argue with you…

(Am I doing it right?)

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I am going to presume for a moment that you’re trying to argue in good faith. Since you’re obviously going on the angle of medical workers during the pandemic, I’ll borrow your example.

Firstly, it is false to argue that people in massively stressful jobs consistently operate at a good standard of competence. Particularly for medical workers, long shifts tend to result in decreased performance (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1312297/), although a review of studies in the BMJ (https://bmjopen.bmj.com/content/8/9/e021967) suggested that while they couldn’t find any statistically significant difference in patient mortality or postoperative conclusions, data on other outcomes were mixed. I believe New Zealand specifically limits shift lengths and frequencies with the goal of reducing such impacts (Resident doctors win fight for improved working hours - NZ Herald).

Secondly, you mistake the maintaining of a minimum standard required to keep patients alive and healthy with the requirement of performing at absolute peak physical and mental levels required for sportspeople. The difference in matches is often marginal, and it’s rarely a case of utter dominance. A slight drop in performance could easily result in different outcomes (e.g. see Curtis Jones against West Bromwich Albion). Having time and space to think on one’s actions (e.g. in surgery, where it is often planned out meticulously pre-surgery) and only needing to focus and adapt accordingly in situations is quite different from having to react instantaneously. In one situation, so long as the job is executed properly, not necessarily perfectly, the desired outcome is achieved. In the other situation, there are a lot more variables involved. What else would the point of having dieticians, multiple coaches, psychologists, and the other staff not directly related to day-to-day coaching be, if not to optimise every last bit possible?

Thirdly, and most importantly, the part you’re being obtuse about. Money and lifestyle are often not even come to being key motivators of job performance, not are they sustainable as motivators (see intrinsic vs extrinsic motivators). So your whole spiel about how they’re so well-paid is completely irrelevant. They will face completely different pressures, and as others have tried to tell you here already, the mental pressure to perform well as a top athlete is often really high. If it weren’t the case, many more people would be more successful in sports careers. In fact, as a comparison, you would really looking into the ranks of non-professional football to even come close to the number of medical practitioners, if you want to talk about performance levels required. The amount of pressure arguably much higher as a top athlete, than a medical worker.

Before you argue that I’m trivialising medical work, consider that even pre-pandemic, burnout and fatigue were already problems within the NHS (Third of UK doctors report burnout and compassion fatigue | Doctors | The Guardian). There was also a recent news article about how many medical workers were refusing to return to the frontline in this most recent crunch, after their experiences last year. It is completely fallacious to argue that they are capable performing to their usual standards.

In summary, this kind of bullshit simplified thinking about such issues isn’t helpful, and very much is counterproductive.

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You and your hobbies :wink:

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Have a like for the effort for sure, will read it later.

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It’s because it’s relevant to the lives they have lived
There’ll always be a story that makes your own seem like a fortunate ow.
That’s not the point, if you just try to suck it up and not deal with it your putting a wall up between yourself and those you love, and ultimately, when you do that, you aren’t living your best life.

Hope that explains it to you.

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I’ve said my piece you know what I think. I’m not arguing with anyone.

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