Yet again,WTF?
We have to come good sometime,and it needs to be soon.
Another title is looking more suss as this continues.
A team formerly so good does not just become shit overnight.
What you are seeing is a loss of form, loss of stability coupled with an opposition that has across the board worked us out. Two banks of four, and no space, with allowing us the ball. We seriously need a goalscorer who can nick the 1-0s.
The loss in form arises from injury crises, covid and the move from Melwood, the last being the most crucial factor. Hence why they all look shadows of their former selves.
The entire season looks set to be a grind.
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Some people need to get a fucking grip on here. Yes, we’re going through a bad spell at the moment, but we’ve also just had the best 2-3 years any club could wish for, no team can keep up that level of performance forever. Granted, things would’ve been a lot better if we hadn’t lost the heart of the team to serious injury, 3 players injured by thugs. But to start saying we’re relegation candidates is just fucking stupid. So just everyone calm down please and remember the words of YNWA.
Get behind the lads and a bit less hysteria.
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I said it was a factor not the entire reason.
Like if a band step out to an empty 60,000 seater…not the quite the same playing to no one.
what’s this GIF from and is it worth watching?
@Barnestormer - great post
I agree with most of this and understand most of this
I don’t understand the connection between moving from Melwood and drop in form - what do you mean there?
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Well I reckon there is as much tradition, strength familiarity involved in training at Melwood every day, as there is in playing at Anfield. The latter slightly more in enigma, but they have lost the familiarity of the safe place. Melwood was the safe place. Now its all to be refamiliarised.
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Yeah - why didn’t Curtis come on?
yup - there goes dry january
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I could not figure out why Origi did what he did…
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We should have benched Firmino but not Salah. Meanwhile, should have put Salah to No.9 (central) and Shaqiri on the right wing. The midfield should have been Wijnaldum - Thiago - Jones, because we all know Chamberlain is already a lost cause.
Well I’m a fucking idiot then
It’s not just the ability of the defenders
Is not just what losing those players from midfield does to us
It’s not just having an unsettled back four for every other game
It’s not just the significance of telling the rest of the squad and klopp that after everything they have achieved and the effort to get where they are they just have to ‘make do’ again…the bounce mane and Salah et al would have gotten if they were rewarded on jan 1st with upecanano would have been significant
To me, it’s all of that rolled into one.
But I suppose I’m just a fucking idiot.
It’s
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I can relate to your point re: a full crowd. It shouldn’t change our performance. Although a full stadium would help, we are in terms of crowd on a level playing field as everyone else.
I don’t know if your response is tongue in cheek but I do feel you may have over reacted here.
As iv said, I agreeThe absence of crowd is definitely not a reason for our recent below standard form 
Well said.
Those of us who went through the Souness years where 6th to 8th were the norm are more grounded.
During the 90s and 00s, the fickle fans were associated with the likes of Man Utd, the so called glory hunters.
Us being supreme over the last three years is introducing fair weather fans, or fans who have been too spoilt.
Valid criticism is absolutely fine, whereas knee jerk would get you a panic transfer of a Andy Carroll.
Yes, let’s demote TAA to the under 23s, and get a right sided Julian Dicks who can be a hard man and “stick it up at them”. Or let’s sell out midfield and get a goal scoring extrodinairre like Paul Stewart. Why not enter the transfer market for a stop gap central defender like Bjorn Tore Kvarme.
Or rather, let’s work harder and find solutions on the training field to salvage a top 4 position (or even like 40 years or so ago come from 12 points off the top of the table at Boxing day to win the league). Then make proper plans behind the scenes for the summer transfer targets.
None of this let’s make a statement transfer, and end up with selling a Peter Beardsley (read Bobby) and splash the cash on a Dean Saunders (read flavour of the week).
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This is where I start linking it to the defence…
There is something wrong with the squad. In my humble opinion, and it is absolute speculation, but they feel let down by the club in some way.
Not enough to down tools Chelsea style, but more that 1% ish that makes the difference.
You can, and we did, band aid through a period when the chips are down because of circumstances, it’s even character building… that was October to December … and we finished the year top of the league and qualified for next round.
The boys did well in the trenches and were waiting for air support… when those planes are staying grounded, the whole rhetoric changes.
I’m not saying it’s easy or even in some respects possible, but that’s not the point… these guys won the league on a budget in the most money dominated period of the sports history… they don’t have to recognise why ( mentally) they just need to see it play out…
I think the result is inevitable in some ways.
The mentality monsters were asked to go to the well one too many times.
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This, im a Brummie. Im 38 years old and have supported us since 1989, in the Pub they call me scouse Daz. I am like Klopp (and most of our supporters) in that I am jumping up and down.
We are going through a tough spell but its not the end of the world. We havent become a bad team over night, we are a team trying to react and maybe putting pressure on ourselves and trying to force things.
I was actually happy with our positive approach, whilst at the same time frustrated with our final ball, hesitation, etc. I personally believe its just a matter of time and ask for everyone to get on board!
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Good perspective. Just realized that aside from Villa, the only losses we’ve encountered this year have been by one goal, it’s not like we’ve been getting blown out. I did wonder last year how City went so far off the boil after getting 100 and 98 points. I guess we know now!
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In a recent game where Curtis started, he tried kept trying to beat his man but failed. Eventually he was taken off.
In this game, our best moments came when we dribbled post the initial man, starting with Gini in the 41st minute.
In the second half, this was our best route to the chances. That’s why I would’ve liked Curtis rather than Taki to have come on.
Rather than crossing into a line of 4 tall Burnley defenders, we should’ve tried more probing quick passes mixed with some dribbling to take out the first man, and that would pull the other Burnley players to try to cover for the beaten man.
That’s why Ox was poor today. He was the one with the licence from midfield to do this, but he didn’t do it even once.
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The fall from where we were to this, is frankly, Rodgerian.
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Anyone do anything at Christmas break any mirrors or anything…
I moved a television and my boyfriend is bubbled elsewhere, however good news is he is back with me for the Spurs game.
Seriously something happened over that period, it can’t be the Mane sub surely? That would be only one player.
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