You can only protect a person from themselves for so long as well. Nunez was sent off for what looks like one flash point, but he was insistent on putting something on Anderson. If there was someone who should have done more to “protect” anything, it was Klopp for not reacting to the clearly growing frustration and dragged him off. As for all these complaints about Anderson, he wasnt doing anything different than any CB would do. People need to get as much of a grip of themselves as Nunez does.
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Probably someone doing it for “i wanna be famous for 5 seconds” reasons, like most penises
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I once gave my spare pair of shin pads to Gordon Strachan’s son, and made sure I gave him the Liverpool FC ones. I then made sure I had a great view to see his reaction at seeing what his son was wearing.
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maybe he shouldn’t, given his current conversion rate.
I watched that match, our turnover rate was far too high and we have come up against another team in succession who has successfully managed to kill our transition game by pressing the midfield in a 4v3 mismatch. Forcing us to hoof it up the field to the strikers who were 3v5 and couldn’t get the ball to feet.
This is a serious problem that has plagued us for a few years now. I liked when we used to work triangles at the top of the opponents box and create mis-matches, slam hard crosses in the space behind the CB, at knee height and have striker going near post and far winger to far post. the defender is left with a choice of a possible deflection into his own goal or push it behind for a corner. When Robbo & Trent were racking up the assists, that was our preferred method.
Now we’re floating crosses over the top into their back line and when you’re facing a 4-5-1 setup like Palace was yesterday, you may as well bang your head off the wall.
Good performance especially when a man down, 9 times out of 10 we win that game. People moaning about Milner and his age, what about that 40 year old bald midfield who is having a mare of a season so far impersonating Fabinho. We need to win the relegation battle next Monday.
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some big points I noted as I’m re-watching this
26min, Nunez gets chopped down by Schlupp. 27:30, Nunez hacks down Andersen who takes his number
28min Trent is playing just behind the three strikers in an advanced midfield role, gets ball to his head with a 1v3 advantage behind him and he plays the ball directly to the defender instead of choosing one of the three attackers.
32min Trent again in a very advanced and tucked-in position, ball comes out to Eze from the Palace keeper and he doesn’t even attempt to intervene or track back. Eze dances past Fab quite easily then springs the counter with Zaha playing off Nat’s shoulder. no blame to Nat on that one, very few defenders can keep up with Zaha and that transition happened within 10sec.
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46min, ball moves up right side, Trent loft a ball to front line which is headed away back to him. ball goes to Fab, back to Trent who then attempts a cross-field ball that falls 5y short into their defensive line. Rinse, repeat.
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Trent defensively is poor but mostly good going forwards.
I’m not picking on him, he feeds a LOT of pretty decent balls into the box. Problem lies in that he does it too often and idles on the ball too long sometimes which allows the defense to get set before the ball comes in.
we had some good chances in the first half, some miscues as players are integrating together after 4-5yrs of the Bobby/Mane/Salah combo which were clicking very well. it’ll take a few weeks to really play well off each other and to intuitively KNOW what’s going to happen next between them.
however, Elliot isn’t strong enough defensively to be covering to Trent and we have a very evident defensive weakness on that side which will cause us all sorts of problems. I understand that Klopp likes inverted wingers, but I think that yesterday I’d rather see Milner and Elliot swaps sides.
Very hard to follow football in the PL atm when there’s very little perspective.
You draw or lose games in the first couple of weeks and the season is over.
You have several injuries and you must go to the txfer market…
Player misplaces a pass and he’s useless…
Liverpool MF is old and useless; never mind they finished the last season competing in every competition till the last day…
Think I’m just going to switch off for a while…
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48min, Salah releases Nunez into the box whose shot is blocked by Ward going to ground. hits his upper arm then his torso, I don’t see a VAR review which I find curious?
Pretty sure I heard the commentator on Sky say the check is over. It was very quick.
56min, as the interplay is happening with Trent and Milly on the right wing, Nunez is jockeying with Andersen who has taken his number earlier in the match (around 27th min). some pushing, jocking for body position, some shirt grabbing in the buildup, has been happening all game but really intensifies around 51st min when Andersen gives Nunez a two-handed shove in the back. watching the next 5min, it escalates. at 53rd min after an concussion check, Nunez and Milly have a word with the ref who ignores it. this continues over next few mins as these two continue to go at each other. 54min, Andersen is giving Diaz the same treatment. All hands on him. 56min, more contact in the box, Andersen says something to him and gives him a shove in the back, Nunez retaliates and sees red.
Nunez is going to have to learn this is how the PL is played and he’s going to get that kind of treatment now from every CB in the league.
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61min, that goal by Diaz looks more like Suarez than anything I’ve seen in a while. the feints and how he walks through SIX defenders is something special.
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It’s only no blame on him because we all know he isn’t good enough to be playing for us.
Does the blame therefore lie with Jürgen, for expecting a player he knows has limited pace to play our usual high defensive line tactics?
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For me the goal was down to a mistake by Fabinho. If he holds the player up instead of committing himself in a bid to tackle him - there no chance of a break away goal.
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We have to take into considering that we are going to concede on occasion… Yes, Fab committed too early but it was a brilliant ball by Eze and a clinical finish by Zaha.
Phillips isn’t going to be a first-choice CB and that’s not why he’s here.
If we’d taken a couple of the wasted opportunities in the first half, we wouldn’t even be discussing the Palace goal and who was to blame.
It’s not so much about pace, as Semmy said no CB in the world is keeping up with Zaha, but positioning and ability to play the offside trap. He obviously got caught out. Yeah Jurgen has some blame there, last time Phillips was in the team we changed our tactics to cover up for his and Williams’ deficiencies but I think Jurgen and his staff thought we could get away with it this time.
Realistically we should have gotten away with it, we created enough chances to win the game several times and should have seen them off even with conceding the goal. I just push back on the notion that there is no blame to Phillips for that goal - there is blame because he allowed himself to get exposed, caught between offside and making a challenge while also not being in position to make an interception. Our expectations of Phillips are low, however. Lower than they are for any other player in the squad so when he makes a mistake people brush it off as “Oh well not his fault” but the actual answer is “Oh well, we know he isn’t good enough”. He’s either good enough and made a bad mistake, or not good enough and performed as expected. He can’t be both.
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