It was Gini’s fault!
Henderson was on the press with Mané, Jota, Salah and Firmino. I acknowledge that press was ill advised yet if Gini had kept his discipline and stayed in his Zone on his player mark we still had controll of the situation. As soon as Gini left his position the whole pitch opened up. If you can not recognise that there’s no point going on. your wrong!
I was just looking for excuses for Mané and never said he couldn’t handle Walker just implied that perhaps being up against such a big twat he got distracted. I thought he had a good game, you didn’t.
Mané says hi and toodles to you!
I hope we had 11 on the pitch!
For what it’s worth I thought we played well, all 11 particularly in the 1st half.
We could bemoan that Salah and Firmino are not great finishers at the moment. Also the error by Gini, for there goal, was horrendous but it really was his only major error in the game.
Second half we could have done better with our possession however we looked in control even if very tired.
I was surprised how well the 424 worked in the 1st half and 442 in the second (even if the 442 didn’t give us much going forward.
Some players did much better than I anticipated, Matip was very disciplined and good in defense (i don’t think I saw him lingering 3 meters behindour line once) his passing was a bit rusty but not bad.
Of course we need better from Salah and Firmino however they make an effort and that’s how it is at the moment.
Gini found acres of space all through the 1st half and hardly slowed the game down even if he couldn’t see the opening.
Not bad against a good team away!
Why am I not surprised you have singled out Gini for the goal?? It was a combination of many errors where a team like City are clinical in exploiting.
Judging from what Klopp said, Mane should not have been pressing but defending in between. The ball got played into the right channel (our left) and like what has happened all season Gini moved over to support, just like Henderson does on the other side of the pitch. Okay, in hindsight it was maybe the wrong call, However, TAA got turned to easily, Matip could have tried to make a sliding block and Mane didn’t really bust a gut to get back did he??
Look Gini, like all players made a bad decision(s) throughout the game but its a team game. It is almost like your happy for Gini to make mistakes so you can come on the forum and say ‘I told you so’ and then when pulled up on it come out with an almost unrelated point.
Support the team!!!
Positive followed by a negative on Gini. Give up will ya
WARNING @Flobs has seemingly been drinking all day (again).
The problem here is not with the refs, but what they are being directed to do. People should listen to Hendo’s take on it…it’s dumb, there is not much the defender can do, but that is how they are now being called so you have to accept it.
This game is one of the first we’ve had for a long while in which the result was on the line late and I didn’t feel like we were going to force a winner. This looked more physical than technical though, but saw similar from City. This was a game that was a superb first half that seemingly fizzled out. While I didnt like it, this game is a pretty good case to use to argue for 5 subs.
Mané, Gini, Gomez, Trent were all ‘at fault’ for their goal. Also not unsafeable for Alisson.
Or we could just admit that it was a great goal by them.
Both are true really; I thought they taught Nietzsche in Deutschland
I don’t think that is correct.
At start of the season this was true, but a few weeks ago the Premier League changed the handball interpretation.
After all the complaints in the first few weeks refs in the PL are meant to determine if arm/hand is in an unnatural position.
…what?
That’s Gini for you.
That is an incredible nonsense!
… and others have seemingly been taking hallucinogenics.
Even Klopp admits in his post-match presser, his first point was that ‘we failed to close off the wing’. So Gini had to come across to cover, which left the space for KDB. Gini had to go across to cover, else Walker has a free run on Robertson and could have crossed without hindrance.
Its hallucinogens, actually, or even entheogens. Can heighten awareness…
Lol, why am I surprised you couldn’t respond with a reasoned response…
That is false he did not have to come across. In fact going across was THE error. You only go across if there’s another player to come in and cover the area you left and there wasn’t.
The player that recieved the ball was no immediate threat the threat was if he played to KDB who was axial. If you leave KDB wide open that multiplies his threat by thousands of times.
It doesn’t matter what Klopp says, he’s wrong and if he trains us to leave players free in the type of positions KDB was in there’s an enormous problem.
A cross is covered by 2 CB’s who can head the ball. Robbo covered the wing and if it went down there there would be cover and also time for Hendo and Mané to get back, so eventually Gini could go over.
Please show some understanding of football and tactics when replying.
Let’s face it the player Gini tried closing down didn’t have many good options until Gini went to close him down, leaving KDB in a very dangerous position and free, from far too far away. It was tactically incompetent!