Post match: Man Utd v Liverpool (EPL 13/5/21 8.15pm)

[WooltonRed]

The ball passed under his thigh without contact. It was a penalty.

[KY_TNRed]

It definitely made contact with the thigh, clearly shows above in Lowton’s first gif. I honestly don’t understand the handball rule anymore (or possibly ever based on what i’ve seen this year), but I definitely do not think calling that a handball is in the spirit of the game. The hand has to go somewhere as he’s making an athletic “football” move towards the ball sliding on the ground. Maybe I am an idiot, maybe I’d think differently if we lost, but that cannot be a handball for me.

[WooltonRed]

I still can’t see it hit his thigh, but then, I’ve just finished a G&T. The handball rule has become a mystery to a lot of us.

[Rambler]

Nah clearly hit his thigh as was pointed out on the commentary last night.

[WooltonRed]

Well, if Martin Tyler said it hit his thigh, then hit his thigh it did!
No penalty.

[Rambler]

It wasn’t Tyler. It was a stream

I am not giving Sky any money.

[KY_TNRed]

G&T sounds great right about now

[WooltonRed]

Say no more! Wink, wink, nudge, nudge!

[WooltonRed]

It is, I’m on my second one.

[Limiescouse]

@aussielad

@Quicksand

constitutes contact

The issue is contact in itself is not a penalty. This is a myth drummed up by the media to cover the blatant and rampant cheating of players diving to win a penalty

Especially not when the contact is created by our player being late to the challenge.

[Prolix]

@Quicksand

I know that.
The contact on Phillips took his leg from under him. Hence a penalty.

It was not careless, reckless, or using excessive force. Hence not a penalty.

A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
[…]
If an offence involves contact, it is penalised by a direct free kick.
[…]
A penalty kick is awarded if a player commits a direct free kick offence inside their penalty area or off the field as part of play as outlined in Laws 12 and 13.

[Colossal_centre_back]

The penalty decision in my opinion was correct. Didn’t look like one even on replays. It never happens consistently though that’s the problem.

Also, why wasn’t the below one second yellow? Trent also got against Everton for a similar one I presume.

@Lowton_Red

Anyway, it hardly constituted a tackle…
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… in the Six Nations.

[Prolix]

@WooltonRed

The ball passed under his thigh without contact. It was a penalty.

Except for the above offences, it is not an offence if the ball touches a player’s hand/arm:

• […]
• if the hand/arm is close to the body and does not make the body unnaturally bigger
• when a player falls and the hand/arm is between the body and the ground to support the body, but not extended laterally or vertically away from the body

[Colossal_centre_back]

@Colossal_centre_back

Bit too harsh on Mane here, need to cut him some slack.

Such small instances shouldn’t let the opinion about him to be changed so drastically. It’s football, ofcourse things get heated up. He didn’t do anything to harm anybody and he’s been more of a team player then we could even imagine. He’s a wonderful human being and probably one of the most selfless guys off the pitch as well. It’s not even a discipline issue like missing a training on purpose and so on.

The media is there to spin such stories, we can really let it go.

Nice of Klopp to say on the similar lines that never to forget the 5 million times if someone respects you and when he doesn’t for once you forget that all.

[Bekloppt]

Handball is a total farce these days. We know why the rule is there. It’s to stop players catching or punching the ball and turning the game into rugby or Aussie rules. So why is it handball when the ball is shot from three metres away? That under the thigh example should never be handball for me, because where else is he going to put his hand? I hope there’s a total rethink of the rules.

[Sportbilly1966]

Sorry mate but Gini & Fab were the culprits of Fernandez eventually receiving the ball and then having too much space in the box, the last element was Nat trying to clear it and for me the shot was going in.

[ILLOK]

@Sportbilly1966

Sorry mate but Gini & Fab were the culprits of Fernandez eventually receiving the ball and then having too much space in the box, the last element was Nat trying to clear it and for me the shot was going in.

Nobody is defending Wijnaldum or Fabinho for their part in the goal, they should have done better. So could Phillips. It was a tame shot that could have been cleared but he was clumsy/slow in sorting his feet out. It’s that simple.

And it wasn’t going in either.

[Sportbilly1966]

Well said agree that there was no motion by the oppo player to play the ball and his arm was in a natural position ready to support his body when sliding to stop the shot/cross

[Sportbilly1966]

Many far better players have made far worse clearances that Nat, but you are using it to have a go at Nat it happens and no coaching will change that last second action to clear a shot/cross. Whereas the other 2 culprits were lazy in Gini’s case not tracking Bissaka and Fabs positioning was for a top pro unfathomable, you can’t give a player like Fernandez that much space in our box

[ILLOK]

@Sportbilly1966

Many far better players have made far worse clearances that Nat, but you are using it to have a go at Nat it happens and no coaching will change that last second action to clear a shot/cross. Whereas the other 2 culprits were lazy in Gini’s case not tracking Bissaka and Fabs positioning was for a top pro unfathomable, you can’t give a player like Fernandez that much space in our box

Plenty of world class players have let players run off them, why are you having a go at Gini and Fab?

Silly. Phillips didn’t do well in the situation. Not having a go at him at all, just calling the incident how it happened rather than being nice because it’s a certain player.