Post match: Man Utd v Liverpool (FAC 24/1/21 5.00pm)

This. The game is bent. It’s been bent for a long time, but it’s so much more blatant this season that it’s taken all of the enjoyment out of football for me, even when we were winning and topping the table.

CL might be a bit better, but I’m not certain. Either way, I’d like to see us go hard after the CL this year.

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If Lucas had ever done anything so stupid many on here would be insulting him no end on here.
Then again English football is full of perversions, the lynching that Rhys gets/got for miss kicked compared to the no noise of Thiago ducking out the way of a goal bound strike comes to mind. :rage:

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There was one in first half where Salah had Pogba drapped over his shoulders like a coat ref just shuck his head and played on.

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Thats the trouble in todays game not all fouls are yellow or red card offences but we have now become programmed to believe they are.

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As I keep saying, it’s irrelevant whether we’d be screaming for a foul it’s it one of ours. We don’t get it. We never do. That’s the point.

If that’s a foul now, then sound. But it needs to be a foul for us as well, and it never is.

Can you honestly tell me you think Mo Salah gets that foul?

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All I know is that if Lucas had done what Fab did a foul would be given and so many would have agreed with it. I don’t think Pawson or any other English ref would have given that to Mo then I am sure Mo would have tried to stay on his feet and get the ball (unlike what some apologists on here are saying). Firmino would even have acknowledged he had been touched!

You keep referring to posters who were not seen during our winning season. At least not seen often enough, based on your expected posts/month ratio? How often exactly were you contributing when for 13+ years on TIA I was posting tens of times/week?

Maybe you deem one’s opinion valid if they are posting often nowadays, and comprehensive contribution to the board doesn’t matter, eh?

Oh, and I can’t be bothered to give a lengthy argument that most won’t read. Especially about something as obvious as needing to get a Sr CB, at least in the summer, when we lost Lovren, not necessarily in Jan. And spare me the “FSG led us to the promiseland” arguments. I never said they are anything but honest and competitive owners that aim to do the right thing for the club, long-term. But they are learning. They made a lot of mistakes and this is just another one, so they need to just admit it and adjust. Especially during a time like this, that opportunistic investors make a killing when the markets are hitting the bottom.

You also keep making the argument that we, LFC, a more emotional, sentimental, togetherness-rich, club have been impacted worse by the pandemic than other clubs. I know a little about behavioral sciences, and I’d love to test this and the opposing hypothesis, which may read like so:

Perhaps, because of our togetherness and high emotional engagement level, during tough times we should be performing better than those clubs who don’t develop and enrich strong emotional connections…

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How ironic mate that VAR can see fouls after the final whistle and offer the scum a pen agajnst Brighton…but neither they would draw lines for teams playing against us or recheck a foul.

It’s as if, the whole league’s refree association has gone against us since the backlash from Boss and the players against decisions at the everton game.

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The incompetent referees association, as an entity, are drastically changing the landscape of the game and manipulating the rules beyond ‘common sense’ comprehension anymore. Very soon it will become too far gone to turn back to the enjoyable days of exciting football matches. When they do spoil it for everyone, then we will all need to find a new hobby.!

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The officials don’t fall for it, they deliberately favour Man United.

As Clattenburg stated: “He does not like losing (Klopp), he never has. He gets prickly. But he is wrong to suggest there is an aura around United that sees them given favourable decisions. There used to be when Fergie was there, but that has eased massively since he left.”

So basically the favourable decisions haven’t stopped, they’ve only eased.

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The whole league has been against us since Hillsborough, if not Heysel, mate.

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This is the one, all of a sudden they thought Liverpool had the only hooligans in England and blamed the banning it all on us. I was without a club in those days, the evil years between my previously destroyed hometown club Holland Sport and becoming a Liverpool-fan and all I hear around me, Liverpool got us banned from Europe, they are to blame for the banning I hope FA will make sure that they will never win anything anymore.

Is this proof, me hearing other supporters say that, no, the proof is on the pitch ever weekend except for last year or were we simply too strong that the refs gave up?

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The main reason the Bitters turned against us.
The ban prevented them from playing for the European Cup.

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I think our league success last season was down to two things.

Firstly, we were by far and away the best team. Nobody can possibly argue with that.

Secondly, the authorities (it goes far higher than just the refs) decided not to stop us- for once- so that they could say “See- there is no anti-Liverpool agenda” the next time somebody claims that there is.

They can now hold us back for another couple of decades, using our 2019-20 success as their defence.

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Now I took some time before writing this post after the Manc debacle. I don’t blame Williams. He doesn’t pick himself. Williams tries hard but he’s not a center-back, meaning he has none of the qualities required of a CB. He’s tall but has no size, no pace, doesn’t read the game particularly well, isn’t a great passer. He’s rubbish as a CB. His standard is League 2 or the Nations League, that is how bad he is. He should be nowhere near this team from now until the foreseeable future. Sayng that, does management know that the transfer window is open? Don’t they fucking see that we are 1-2 CBs short. what are they fucking waiting on and please don’t come with the goddamn excuses that nobody is out there? We are playing a nations league player in the FA Cup and League for fuck sake. Loan Tomori from Chelsea, buy Dunk, Lascelles, Diop, Tarkowski, etc…there are tonnes of players who could come in a solidify the defense until the end of the season and stake a claim next season. …show some ambition/creativity for fuck sake.

Loan Tomori, Diop, Sakho, Tarkowski. Pay them what we were paying Lovren. They are all currently out of favor at their respective clubs.

Thanks much appreciated!
I have no “ agenda” and have supported LFC for over 40 years standing on the Kop in my youth. However I don’t have the footballing knowledge and insight others on here have. This is why I read it; it helps me understand the issues/ game. I have always found both this forum and TIA inclusive and fair so was upset to be called a “ muppet”
Thanks for the responses guys, I will give it another go!

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Don’t go @BattlingBessie

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Don’t get me started on Heysel, just don’t. It wasn’t a ban it was removal by a Tory government. :rage:

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I know… and the Tories have Fucked us over many times over.!

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