Post match: Napoli v Liverpool (UCL 7/9/22 8pm)

FSG should fire Klopp, and then hire him again just to get rid of stupid journalists asking dumbass questions.

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I wish FSG could fire some of our fans, starting with a lad in this thread.

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Klopp would be better off at a club like West Ham, a club that actually back its manager.

Itā€™s actually a disgrace weā€™re in 2022 and Klopp is having to pick Milner.

Klopp on Thiago, when he came on I saw our first counter-press of the match.

He will be the difference in midfield, play him with Artur and give Elliott a break.

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Yes but all those players are older and have maybe lost a yard.
Playing for Klopp for 5 years is hard going.

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Youā€™re a clown. Only ever on here to slag players off when weā€™re not doing well and never around otherwise.

You might have been able to see enough to realise that we have a process as to how players are evaluated and either brought in, retained, or let go, if youā€™d actually paid attention to whatā€™s going on with the club.

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You are consistently ignoring the points made to you about Klopp because they donā€™t suit your agenda.

I got you think there should have been more investment in the playing squad. Thatā€™s fine, itā€™s your opinion.

But you donā€™t get to blame FSG and absolve Klopp of all blame for this, when Jurgen spent all summer getting really fucking angry with people suggesting we needed a few signings, and publicly putting his faith in lads who most fans think should have been gone years ago.

As I said before, I think itā€™s cowardly. You donā€™t want to acknowledge that Jurgen is just as responsible as FSG, if not more so, for the slow investment, and direct your frustrations there because heā€™s a popular manager, and we all love him to bits. FSG are the suits behind the scenes, people are more willing to pile on them, so fuck it, let them have the blame.

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It seems pretty evident. This is the second game in a row now he has commented on the spacing. After the weekend it was that the starting positions were fine but our movement was off. Today it is similarā€¦when we lose the ball weā€™re too far apart to be able to press.

Either weā€™ve tweaked a couple of things and the players arent getting it, or the minds are moving but the legs arent responding.

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What? In three months?

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See the problem is youā€™re treating that poster as though they have a brain. Thatā€™s where your mistake liesā€¦

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I think itā€™s very much this, and Iā€™m still convinced that we will turn this around. But the question is whether weā€™ll have the opportunity to do so before itā€™s too late to still win things.

In some ways itā€™s a continuation of last season, and that is why its a problem. Players who have lost a step are not as capable of ending a grueling season and shaking the effects off with just a couple of weeks to recharge. The likes of Hendo and Milner may only be a few months older than we beat Wolves on the final of last season, but they were 12 months older than the last time they went into a pre-season.

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Donā€™t engage as they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience!

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My concern is that once an athlete has been pushed to the point that happens it is often not a quick recovery.

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First post today which has made me laugh, fair play.

You still upset because I said the pen against Virgil was a pen?

Talk about us being knackered because of reasons X,Y and Z are absolutely and utterly justified. If all the other teams we play against are in the same boat. Theyā€™re demonstrably not.

Itā€™s not the only problem (other issues are there such as advancing age leading to permanent decline, a gruelling 4-5 seasons on the hop) but it is one of the reasons. Which other team do you know that came within one match and one point of the quadruple?

Seriously, tone it down, you are being too hyperbolic. You know the injuries and ensuing disruption was not planned for.

True, but we donā€™t know what he is allowed to spend either. We have 51 mil net spend, a considerable sum for sure, but not as high as some rival clubs (just ment as a statement of fact, not criticism). Nunez is the big one, where the money was spent. Understandable imo due to Maneā€™s absence. But we donā€™t know if Klopp is allowed to spent much more than the 50 mil in net. We are just working with assumptions, you assume because Klopp have again and again defended his squad, saying it should be good enough, but itā€™s also possible he is also defending his employer from criticism of percieved lack of spending. Obviously, we took a chance, and injuries were cruel and so it hasnā€™t worked out. But we donā€™t know the frames here, how much the club is allowed to spend.

There are some unknown factors here.

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Thisā€¦
Was trying to formulate exactly that comment but you did it much better and with less swears than me.

Jurgen has broad shoulders snd this seems entirely plausible to me.

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Itā€™s possible. But itā€™s far more likely, in my opinion, that when he says that he backs his players and we donā€™t need reinforcements because they are all good enough already, thatā€™s exactly what he means.

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