It may well be the kind of pennywise, pound-foolish decision that City is able to avoid, but it could end up costing us badly.
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This is shocking. Our defensive and attacking setup look like absolute shit with the personnel we have. Our setup looks shit when Salah is playing as winger to create chances as our current midfield is horrible at it and our RB is out of wack. Elliott is only good offensively with the ball but without the ball, his lack of upper body strength and pace means he cannot defend when Salah cuts in or TAA bombs forward. As for Gomez, his mistakes were shocking and his lack of agility in sorting out his feet and lack of defensive nous is embarassing. Now, we know why he is 4th choice last and this season! No wonder the opposition always attacks our right.
As for our left tonight, James Milner shouldnât even be on the bench at this rate as he is a liability on the pitch, be it as FB or CM! Andy Robertson needs a prolonged rest. VVD needs more than a bollocking.
As for Klopp, I hope we makes it to CL next season or else it will be very difficult for FSG to keep backing him.
The only positives? Thiago and Matip are back. Arthur has some minutes in his belt. Thatâs all.
Bad day at the office. To go with the other bad days so far this season.
The midfield stuff has been done to death, so I wonât go there.
Canât help but think the whole thing needs a bit of a rethink. Tactics. Set up. Team. Iâm just an armchair warrior, passing the time of day, but Iâd like to see 4-2â3-1 with the current personnel. Double pivot. Tuck in. We are shipping goals and look way too open. Time to tighten up.
Then with our attacking riches find a blend of four players ahead of them.
We are going through a bit of a reset. We look like we have a hangover from last season too. The main thing is we need to regroup and fight hard, or this season will pass us by and we might be in danger of slipping out of the top four if we are not careful.
Im not being melodramatic, but I see this as more of a top four sort of season than a title challenging one, and then as playing patterns sync up and players link up, and the midfield is refreshed, we will be back to title challenging next time. Just guessing though.
Double pivot is my main tactical observation. Time to tuck in and get more solid, and then go from there.
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It is relatively early days yet,but something is not right.
As has been said we looked better once Thiago came on,but it is much broader than that.Where is the bullying the desire,in some cases at least.
We are not a one man band,we canât be but what ever is not right,letting 4 in is not what we do!
Sure in the CL we still have time to turn it around,as we do in the league,but time is running out.
theres this tiny part of me that thinks if the club said to Klopp
â we will release insert name(s) here, and allocate funds for insert name here, dont stress, weve got thisâ
klopp wouldnt have said ânoâ
so whilst logically i can agree Klopp is taking a positive by working with the situation he has, that situation could vastly be improved by a financial decision upstairs.
just to be extremely basic, theres no way Klopp doesnt want better playersâŚno way⌠he just understands there are external factors. to remove those external factors, it takes a commitment that needs to be made by someone in a different office than Jurgen Klopps.
i dont think anyone (at least most people) cant see what Klopps dealing with, and cant see Klopps loyalty to squadâŚif thats the caseâŚthen someone, somewhere else in the organisation take the decision away from him.
people seem to be refering to this season as a rebuildâŚif soâŚits a rebuild without half the building materials onsite.
compromised.
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As I keep saying, last season has fucked us. Losing out (again) in the league then fucking up the CL has killed us mentally. This group of players have been flogged for 4 years performing miracles but to âgo againâ yet again is too hard mentally after last season. We needed more signings in the summer - clearly midfield needed to be strengthened but also we need player turnover to keep the group fresher. Instead weâve got the same lads having to pull out the same intensive performances while others are injured instead of fresh players re-energising the team. Diaz, Carvalho and Elliot have all been great in this regard however the latter two are still very young and we needed another couple of high quality new faces. Really FSG (and Klopp) are going to need to realise that itâs a mistake to keep a squad together too long - an average of 3-4 new players every season is necessary so that the squad doesnât get stale. It was clear last season that our midfield couldnât carry Ox and Naby in addition to having an injury prone Thiago and Hendo - cheaty or real or any other side serious about competing for multiple trophies would have replaced them. We didnât.
We failed to learn the lesson of 20-21; we need to learn the lesson here - itâs not simply about âgetting in another midfielderâ but about ensuring that we donât let out squad stagnate and we are reinvesting more heavily in new players, not just contract extensions.
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We donât know what was happening behind the scenes, though. As manager, of course Klopp is going to publicly back his players and brush off any suggestion that they need reinforcements. It serves no one to have him publicly pine for more investment - not FSG, not his players, not himself.
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Now I know what other teams supporters feel like after an Anfield experience. Blitzed early.
Anyway we will dust them in the return leg to qualify top of the group.
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Weâve only ever won it when weâve finished second in the group.
Miles from thinking thatâs going happen here but yeah some odd thing to note.
Playing the devilâs advocate here, so if that is the case then why did he feel the need to say LFC need to risk more in the transfer market?
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Disgraceful performance. Itâs like nobody on the pitch gives a *uck.
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Can we just at least fucking foul them when the ball go out of 16m50 area?
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How is Trent getting the blame for this when there are 3 red shirts closer?
Fabinho doing the same as what he did against Newcastle. Braindead football.
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well the morning after⌠how u all living??
Thatâs not Trents fault. Gomez makes the initial error and is caught out and gives them possession. We then get a semblance of shape and theyâre in front of us in a completely defensible position. The ball gets played back, Fabinho is inexplicably attracted up towards the ball and all of a sudden there is huge gap for the initial Napili player to run into. The ball is then played into that space by going in between Gomez/Elliot and a completely out of position Fabinho. Trent is a spectator there and not because heâs lazy, he was never going to get to the ball played back or to challenge that player and he was never going to be able to get back to the ball played through after Fabinho goes walkabout. Had Fabinho held his position he would have been in position to cut that ball out, or made a challenge or the pass might not even have been played simply by his presence in the way.
Gomez and Fabinho hold the responsibility here. Would be nice if the fuckwits making these clips actually played a game of football before or even understood whatâs going on.
sorry in advance for sniping the post to just the opening 4 words.
agree its not his faultâŚbut its not a great look, is it?
remember when football was a team sport and players werent overanalysed to the point that if a goal wasnt their fault, it just wasnt thier business to deal withâŚlets get back to those days.
what do i expect him to do?
at a minimum, be on the balls of your feet, then you can turn and decide to hold position or chase the player, but whats happened there is a guy whos switched off just watching it all unfold.
if he looked alert, i could atleast defend him and suggest he thought it a better idea to stay high to intercept the cut back.
thats trent. what the rest of the lads were doingâŚbahâŚi justâŚ
A deserved hammering, everything was wrong from the tactics to the playerâs application (apart from Diaz of course who is always working hard).
Kloppâs comments after the game clearly demonstrate he understands the problems we have and the need for a systematic change. A few tiny changes will make an enormous difference, so Iâm happy to hear those words coming from him. I hope and expect to reflect on yesterdayâs game as a turning point for us this season.
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This and Matip did not allow them to play him like a fool.
We didnât have enough time off. They were flogged in the summer after the longest season in any clubs history. Klopp even said our preseason continues until the end of August!
The management have got this prea-season wrong it seems.
You dont go from nearly winning the quadruple to utter shit in 3 months unless something is seriously wrong.
Every player bar Diaz (as he hasnât played the Klopp way for 4/5 years) looks goosed,
Injuries then started and because we thought we were getting the lad from Monaco and didnât we decided to shelve the midfielder optionâŚthen all the midfielders, like they do every season, broke down.
Lfc maybe need to move away from well if our first target isnât available then we will leave it as now we have a lad in on loan who injury records is like Thiago.
What happens if Bellingham doesnât come next summer (and he wonât without CL football) do we leave it another summer?
The owners - need to cough up more money. They havenât spent a penny of their own money for 5 years. Itâs all come through selling players on and success. But as Mel Reddy pointed outâŚthatâs ok if you have the players like Counthino to move on, but what happens when no one is buying your players? Funds are needed.
Where I do blame Klopp on the pitch is trying to play the same way without the personnel to do so.
We need to ditch that high line for a start.
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