Post match: Nottingham Forest v Liverpool (EPL 2/3/24 3pm)

I guess his colleagues don’t like him

https://x.com/skysportsnews/status/1764291243373158501?s=46&t=wYI1UQq4Zm7qgLRSA8YMdw

Shocking the amount of fume created. Multiple times we have had bad decisions directly lead to goals or had ours wrongly ruled out.

If your team regain possession subsequently, you fail to clear the ball, then make a mistake. It’s a stretch to say it’s a monumental error. At very best you can say a poor decision indirectly impacted the result.

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Imagine if Tierney got suspended for giving a decision in our favour.
What a laugh that would be!

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Liverpool should show them this.

This is the incident that caused the injury to Konate that prompted the drop ball.

Look at Ryan Yates, wearing 22. On the edge of the box initially.

As the corner is taken he starts the make his run.

Increases speed to attack the near post

As he reaches the cluster of players (including Konate, the player he eventually makes contact with) he jumps and leads with his studs.

No words.

I mean, Forest can be as fucking salty as the want. It’s their club, and their impending relegation. But how they have got the brass neck to complain to PGMOL when their player has done that, I don’t know.

Yates is incredibly lucky that Tierney didn’t see that, because if he did it’s surely a red.

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fuck yeah Mascot.

‘no words’ indeed.

and to think even some of our fans are saying we got the rub of the green

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“Monumental error”

Law 8 of the game states:

The ball is dropped for the defending team goalkeeper in their penalty area if, when play was stopped:
    the ball was in the penalty area or
    the last touch of the ball was in the penalty area

Looking at the clip it is almost certain that Tierney was blowing his whistle before the ball was touched. There is going to be a very small delay between the ref blowing his whistle and it registering on the audio. However, it is clear that he has already decided to stop the game and his main concern is that a player has just been kicked in the head (which he has presumably not seen clearly as that is generally regarded to be foul play.)

At the time there was a groan from the crowd but literally none of the players complained. No one thought it was even in the slightest bit controversial. It was just one of those things.

This then becomes a “monumental error”. It’s on the level of a 50:50 throw in decision. Aside from the fact that I think he is correct by the rules of the game, it isn’t even remotely a game changing decision.

You would think the fact that a winning goal was legitimately scored in the dying moments of a match would have been the major talking point but you can’t have that because Liverpool won.

This is why I regard the Premier League as a whole to be fucking unwatchable. If you are interested, this was the live footage.

https://twitter.com/LFC_ERYAN/status/1764386609179292010

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Also look at Gomez getting his shirt pulled by their player almost dragging him over.

Then there is the Danns one where he is rugby tackled to the floor.

Also everytime Virg went for a corner they were tugging his shirt.

What abou the other monumental error when Hudson Odoi dived when Bradley pulled out of the challenge

If they are looking at errors we win.

Total bollox

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Forest and Football 'bantz merchants are embarrassing themselves.

club should encourage Forrest making idiots out of themselves…take it further…the internal review should study why it took so long for teirney to blow and/or why didnt VAR look into a possible red card…

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It’s all just white noise designed to continue generating the ONLY thing that matters in football…

££££££££££

Those on the punditry gravy train gotta keep it moving.

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I think this might be the moment that Football really jumped the shark. I’ve never seen a bigger gap between the fume generated by an incident and the triviality of the incident itself.

That’s fed into a toxic mix of fan tribalism, clubs using referees as a distraction from their own failings, a media that’s sustains itself on provoking rage-posting, and an opaque, secretive refereeing body, and you get this: three days of debate about a referee making a trivial error two minute, four phases of play, four handovers of possession, a throw in and a corner before the ball goes in the net.

Pathetic is too soft a word.

God knows where football goes from here? Are we now kicking off about a throw in, if the opposition scores 5 minutes later?

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So next time a corner is wrongly awarded or not awarded im guessing that will be classed as a monumental error likewise throw ins and free kicks. Deans stupid statement is opening the door for VAR to fully ref the game.

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But miss a red card assault like the one by Yates on Konate.

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I feel like the Forest owner chasing the referee into the tunnel, and that same owner employing the most high profile referee in the country as the clubs own “referee analyst” whose job it is to apparently publically complain about every foul they didn’t get, is the bigger story here.

I am genuinely still gobsmacked that he is employed by Nottingham Forest. I know he doesn’t referee in this country anymore but he still has an influence because of who he is. Feels like when a government employee leaves to work for a lobbying firm and suddenly that lobbying firms clients are having dinner with the Secretary of State. Stinks.

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https://twitter.com/ianyoungkop/status/1764523962002755824

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Isn’t there supposed to be a ban or something for shit like this? Absolutely disgusting.

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From the BBC website…

John: What has happened to the quality of referees? Paul Tierney’s incredible mistake cost Forest at least a point and added two more points to Liverpool. He is not the only one as standards have dropped. How is Howard Webb going to sidestep this latest calamity?

Simon: So, firstly, I think we need to climb back here. Tierney’s decision did not help Forest but it is wrong to say he cost them a point. Play continued for quite a long time after he had given the ball to Liverpool, it even went out of play. Callum Hudson-Odoi had a chance to clear inside his own penalty area but didn’t and Darwin Nunez could have been marked tighter. These were all bigger factors in Forest conceding that goal. In reality, I suspect the standard of refereeing is higher than it has ever been, but so is the standard and speed of play. And there is no doubt scrutiny on referees is greater than it has ever been as well. I really don’t think it is helpful when all the blame is pinned on one man, in one moment as though he threw the ball into the net. Tierney made a similar decision in the first half, in favour of Forest, so I guess you could say he was being consistent even if it might have been wrong.

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A minor mistake is being blown up out of all proportion because they lost the game at the death.

They got two yellows in stoppage time for time wasting. Their goalie took almost half of the entire time, poor thing, trying to regroup from life threatening injury after a keen Danns bumped into him.

Yates should have been on a yellow from near the start. He did several bad tackles, unchecked, so late on he throws his foot in the direction of Konate’s head, five feet off the ground. Very, very lucky not to see red.

Konate, to his credit, gets up in seconds, and the ball goes back to Liverpool.

That’s the minor mistake. The ball should have gone to Forest, much like the one in the first half that Klopp referenced, only the other way around. No big deal, a very minor mistake.

Except that a full two minutes later, after a throw, a corner, and multiple opportunities for Forest to clear the ball or keep the ball, we scored the winner.

Superb stuff from the mighty reds. We had to go to the well four times in 11-12 days, with numerous kids, and we won them all. So as things stand we have the Carabao Cup in the bag, we are still in the FA Cup, and we are top of the league. The race against time for us is to try to get some more senior players back so we have more for the run in. The kids have been heroic though, no doubt about that.

As for Forest, it’s a minor hard luck story, but there’s no good will.

Utterly toxic fan base. Poverty chanting en masse, and the vitriol toward our bench was ominous, and that poor kid had to be fished out of it for his own safety, as well as the safety of his mum.

Shame on you Forest,

The other stuff with the no mark owner reflects poorly on them, and hiring a high profile former ref to do your PR is a bunch of balls too. You lost.

Now enjoy your incoming points deduction and piss off back to the nether regions of football. I do remember Clough, and the great Forest side he assembled. There was a rivalry then, and you were good.

But now? Nope. Forest are coming across like some sort of midlands Everton. A town of scabs.

Off yer pop.

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The state of people really:

This was me and my son , I got Nottingham family stand tickets to take him a game because I couldn’t get Liverpool ones my son then went on to cheer who’s only 6 when we scored then that was it fully grown men started spitting at my son and throwing things screaming in my face

https://twitter.com/UnsworthEl79710/status/1764612237027614914

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This is my son the Nottingham fans got very aggressive towards me and my son when we cheered them scoring so Robertson and klopp noticed us and removed my son from the situation and took him onto the pitch

Top class from Robertson and Klopp, and no surprise there.

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Can we have these bunch of cunts relegated :man_facepalming:

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It’s so pathetic. The story is predictably now, “liverpool can never complain about a bad call going against them again”,

It’s difficult to tell exactly as there is no angle I have seen that shows CHO and the ref, but it’s clear the touch and the whistle are pretty bang-bang incidents. People arguing that CHO touching the ball a fraction before the whistle went meaning they should have got the ball back ignores that Tierney would have made the decision to blow the whistle before the touch and in doing so also already decided it meant Liverpool would get the ball back.

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