Post match: Nottingham Forest v Liverpool (EPL 2/3/24 3pm)

If it makes anyone feel any better, I have no doubt Tierney would not have given us the ball if he thought we would go on to score :joy:

I do think alot of referee complaints are based on the fact people donā€™t know how to talk about football in a way that is both insightful and still engaging. Its much easier to boil everything down to a referee giving a drop ball to a goalkeeper.

Given I live in Nottingham, I was glad to see them come up, cos the city could really do with the benefits of premier league football. As it stands there isnā€™t a team I would rather see go down. They are fucking vile from top to bottom.

This video of grown men whipped into such a fervour that Liverpool players and staff felt compelled to risk their own safety getting a woman and child out of the stands is shocking. But letā€™s have it right. The club have encouraged and fermented this febrile hatred with their irresponsible behaviour. They have encouraged a culture of blame, conspiracy, and victimhood.

ā€˜Fucking cheating wankersā€™ shout the red faced fans of a club who have admitted to breaking financial fair play regulations. This shit writes itself.

Most of you wonā€™t know this, but there is a local row brewing around the development of the area around the City Ground/Trent Bridge. Previously there had been an agreement in place for the City Council to put some funding in to help with the development. However, as the government have slashed funding, the council has declared bankruptcy, and is cutting loads of essential services to the bone.

As youā€™d expect they canā€™t afford to put money into the development of the area, and the club has had a shitfit around this. They have lobbied and mobilised local MPs (including my insipid bog standard issue Tory bint) to pressure the Council, and started petitions and calls to action demanding the money - from a council that cannot currently afford to keep open public toilets.

There is something profoundly morally bankrupt about a football club pressuring an actually bankrupt local authority to put money into redeveloping the area around their ground, when that same club has flushed millions upon millions of pounds down the toilet on shit footballers.

I hope the go down, and keep going until they find themselves in league two. Horrible, horrible bastards.

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From now on these twats (ex refs) need to complain about any mistaken throw in/corner that leads to a goal within 2 minutes, no matter how many times the ball subsequently goes out of play.

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This whole episode is starting to remind me of that time that one of the officials twatted Robbo and this was, apparently, all Robbo and Liverpoolā€™s fault. I mean the match officials are probably delighted at the moment because it takes the focus away from them failing to (checks notes) even award a free kick for kicking someone in the fucking head.

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I remember taking my then five year old son to watch Forest. This was when they were in the championship and couldnā€™t fill the stadium, and were giving away tickets to local schools. We sat in the ā€˜family enclosureā€™. My son learnt some interesting new words from the man sat behind us (with his son)

ā€œDaddy, whatā€™s a cunt?ā€, he asked on the bus home.

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Even Nevilleā€™s saying itā€™s bollocks.

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Neville is absolutely right to say that, at some point, this culture (that has noticeably gone up a notch this season) has got the potential to end up with someone hurt.

What was Marinakasā€™s plan when he was trying to force his way into Tierneyā€™s room? What did he want to happen at that point?

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Paul Tierney will not referee a Premier League game this weekend and will instead act as VAR for Arsenal vs Brentford.

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Serious question ā€¦ would we have been magnimous and accepted it as a genuine error if that had gone against us or reacted like Forest fans who believe it is yet further evidence against Tierney and PGMOL? I am genuinely curious to know. :thinking:

Of course we would have been up in arms. Thatā€™s not the point being made. Itā€™s one thing for fans to fume a bit, but abusing a fucking 6 yr old child is never okay for any reason. Well, unless the child is a bit of a cunt, I suppose, but thatā€™s rare.

Also, While I would expect us to sit here and claim ref bias against us and how theyā€™re costing us the league, I would never expect fucking John W Henry to run out onto the pitch seeking out Tierney, and then to go and stand outside Tierneyā€™s room after the match to intimidate him. Claiming any kind of equivalency here is bollocks.

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I would have said it was about 5 stages of play away from the incident. Iā€™ve always been clear on where I stand with small decisions like this.

Ultimately Iā€™d say it was a mistake that had no material aspect on the game.

Effectively the way Forest sat back that ball would have been back with us within seconds anyhow.

Itā€™s also the way club has reacted.

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Iā€™ve seen Liverpool score a goal, have VAR agree it was a goal, and then the goal not get awarded. Iā€™ve seen a linesman elbow our player in the face. Iā€™ve blatant handballs ignored in the box. Iā€™ve see our players get wiped out by studs up, knee high tackles. Iā€™ve seen Mo Salah struggle to win a free kick with three lads dangling off his neck.

I think Iā€™d be fine with it. For me it ranks alongside a throw in or corner awarded incorrectly. Iā€™d have been pissed off, and I can understand why Forest are pissed off.

But nothing more than that. There were worse decisions just in that match.

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Some would overreact, while others wouldnā€™t. As always on a football forum.

That being said, the reaction from Nottingham Forestā€™s officials, players, some fans is disappointing to say the least. The only one to show dignity on that occasion was Nuno.

As for Clattenburg and Mike Dean, they were miserable refs in their time, and their freshest comments only serves to prove it. Surprisingly, Nevilleā€™s comments are spot on.

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Sadly I want them to go down.

I want Luton to stay up anyhow but Everton are less of an issue than they are. Plus they are cheats as much as Everton financially.

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If you were compiling a list of the worst refereeing decisions of the season, this wouldnā€™t crack the top 100. Itā€™s really weak stuff from a club that now seems hardwired to see injustice and conspiracy everywhere.

Itā€™s good that there have been a few voices now countering the idea that Liverpool scored from the mistake.

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Yeah I said 1000 but having seen the 2 minute clip. I think youā€™d find at least 2000 this weekend worse than this, as others have said there were about 4-5 worse decisions in the game and one that was exactly the same but the other way around.

Fans of a club from a town with bankrupt city council, and with a higher unmployment rate than the city of liverpool, gleefully singing ā€œsigh onā€ from the first minute. Cunts

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A lot of councils are bankrupt or facing it, Iā€™d leave that off the criticising.

Thatā€™s thanks to a centre government obsessed with austerity that cut them to the bone, yes financial mismanagement plays a part, but I wouldnā€™t want to be a local councillor any day of the week.

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Iā€™m not criticizing them for having a bankrupt council.

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Hahaha at all the bankrupt councils.

Things are sweet as here in checks notes Croydon.