: “Liverpool’s best weapon seemed to be a Joe Gomez long throw. Again, it is not a disgrace to lose at PSG – but for a head coach who prides himself on attacking football and a team that has spent so much money, it is hard to find sympathy for Slot.”
: Arne Slot is under a mountain of pressure and the statistics against PSG did nothing to help his cause. An expected goals tally of 0.18, 26 per cent possession, three shots. A big, fat zero shots on target or big chances. Just one corner.
Just 253 passes attempted compared to PSG’s 744…Vitinha completed 132 passes, LFC’s entire midfield completed 161.…hahahahahah
By taking some distance. Yesterday night, knowing that we were in for a tough night, I stayed away from the match, and played music with friends. When I saw the result, it hurted of course, but not nearly as if I had lost my time watching it.
Shankly was of course right with his quote, but he was talking about the match-going supporters while building up a culture of loyalty between the team and these supporters. But it’s hugely different if you are at the stadium and do your part to support the team, or if you watch it on TV or on a stream, hundreds of miles away.
I’m not a match-going fan, and thus, I’ll take distance as long as the lads can’t play like a proper football team. Not from my love for the club and from the great memories it has given me, but from the matches.
I’ll try to give it a go for the Fulham match though, just to see if the lads can show some reaction (not holding my breath). I’ll miss the PSG return game, but that isn’t intentional. I would have watched it if I was available, because this club has it in itself to surprise us with some sudden unexpected super-performance. It wouldn’t be the first time.
Just because I stoped watching them does not mean I do not support them. But it’s a two way street. They get my support because I feel they are trying, have a chance of coming back as we have so many times. Right now the results are predictable and inevitable.
You earn support and they are not earning it right now.
And then I will hear Fulham’s must win……
The entire season has been death by a thousand cuts any positivity seen has been pulled out from under a feet as quickly as it transpired.
There are times, watching LFC, that I want to cry…I sit with head in hands watching some of the games…and despair…it just feels as if no-one is bothered…they
obviously are…but it doesn’t show..we used to have SFS charging up the pitch waiting for a cross from the wing…if the first man missed, the second made contact…last night we had Frimpong making a cross into the box…and no-one had gone with him…it is so frustrating and disappointing…from what we used to play like to now…but after 58 years of being a supporter I’m not giving up yet…whatever the next few months brings..
Well, support, there is none. Sigh. SpionKop1906 has to pick this match to protest.
The criticim of the approach in many ways is symptomatic of the lack of realism in many of the Slot out brigade.
Yes its been a poor and miserable season. All the objective stats show where we are coming up short. But we have a baseline for comparison- the 2024/25 season.
What none of us objectively knows here is the why?
But inspite of this many of us live in fantasy and are willing to conclusively and definitively hold their positions, that the answer to the why is Slot.
This fantasy is amplified by the presumed availability of Alonso, and the expectation that he comes in, turns on the switch and restores LFC to its lofty heights.
Just like he did in Madrid in replacing Ancelotti…
I guess this guy will be hoping we march on next Tuesday…
We forget sometimes it is just a game at the end of the day..
Keep up the good work Mr Cox + Happy Birthday
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He has become such a lightning rod for criticism, that the answer to all problems seems to come down to getting him out.
He is going to lose his job (I think, but I still don’t think FSG don’t want to sack him), but no-one should be under any illusions that any manager will be a quick fix to this.
Call me old fashioned, but players on the money they get with the experience they’ve got, should not need a coach to help them get through to half time with 45 seconds to play and the ball in our hands for a throw in, as happened against City.
There is a matter of collective responsibility and pride, and a question of what, highly paid, professional football players should be able to do without a coach telling them to. Yesterday my son said ‘why did Szobozslai hold on to the ball there until three PSG players tackled him, instead of just passing it to Kerkez’. He’s ten years old.
Painkly.
Yesterday my son said ‘why did Szobozslai hold on to the ball there until three PSG players tackled him, instead of just passing it to Kerkez’.
Did you explain to him it’s because they where in an unfamiliar formation and hadn’t had coaching on how to link up. Or something else?
He would be much more suited to be a rugby player.
Too clumsy and shocking positioning for that game. It’s a precision game of chess.
Slot isn’t the only problem; I think that’s manifestly evident from some of the performances we’ve seen from the players this year.
In this match, for example, our back line was stretched despite playing with a back five, and that was largely down to poor positioning. Inexplicably, there were massive gaps between our center backs. Virgil left acres of space in areas he was expected to cover. Ibou and Virgil were often caught between stepping up and dropping back, which meant that they did neither well. And they reacted too late. That goal from Kvicha should have been stopped by Virgil sliding over to cover when Ibou stepped up, but he was late as Kvicha bursted past Grav into the box.
This is the consequence, of course, of trying to implement a system that these guys hadn’t played all year with very little training - which is then where you point back to Slot for using it.
: “Liverpool’s best weapon seemed to be a Joe Gomez long throw. Again, it is not a disgrace to lose at PSG – but for a head coach who prides himself on attacking football and a team that has spent so much money, it is hard to find sympathy for Slot.”
Slot has lost his north star. When you make changes that dont work and you start further tweaking it is a risk that needs to be managed very carefully and we dont appear to have done that. I have used the Rubik’s cube analogy before - it can be really tough to go from having 1 square left to solve to actually finishing it and a lot of people will end up a lot further away from the finish line in their attempts to solve that piece. That is what we look like happened with our desire to introduce Wirtz and gain more control of games and now he doesnt know how to go back, or even know where “back” is located.
But the other thing is it is one thing to be taken aback by the increased physicality around set pieces but you can and should respond to that without losing your identity if you are a good team with an identity you give a shit about. Resorting to pumping the kick offs out for a throw in and long throws it just screams of a team that doesnt know what it was built for anymore.
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I’ve been reading a bit above and my hope is we don’t turn on each other as fans. It’s a bad time at the club right now, we can all see that. It is very likely things will come to a conclusion with Slot here, whether that is while the season is still ongoing, or at the end.
There have been lots of circumstances we have had to endure this season, but the bottom line is that we still should be better than we have been. Much better, in my view. And so I think Slot will pay with his job.
I will watch the Fulham game hoping we get a much needed win. The CL spots are still there to play for, and some harder Prem fixtures are coming up, so hopefully we get a much needed win there, though Fulham are no mugs.
I will watch the second leg at home to PSG. I try to stay positive but I don’t expect a miracle there. They are a good level above the current Liverpool team in quality and set up. In some ways I feel a bit sorry for the match-going fan, as it is difficult to be fully behind the manager right now, there is some disquiet over price increases, and PSG are a daunting prospect, especially at 2-0 down at ‘half time’ when we could all see it should have been 5-6 nil. The famous Anfield crowd on a big European night is up against it, and then some. Still, I fully expect everyone in attendance to do us proud because in many ways they are the best of us.
There appear to be issues at the club that go beyond Slot, so I’m not expecting a change there to fix everything instantly. Still, I do think that Slot’s removal is necessary, not least to give us a collective sense of release so that we can move forward.
To borrow from our anthem, we are in the storm right now, but a golden sky is coming. In the meantime, I hope we don’t turn on each other. YNWA.
Thanks @Maria
Taking timecout of your day to educate someone
To paraphrase CardiffPete, or MacRed, or perhaps both - let me now educate you properly.
Neither Shankly or Paisley said it. It’s a bastardised Marilyn Monroe quote. “If you can’t handle me at my worst, you don’t deserve me at my prettiest” or something.
It reads absolutely nothing like Shankly.
Ultimately we are very, very far behind the team we played.
One of the things that emphasized that was how we set up for throw ins near their half and it may speak to both how poor we are and, more broadly, how poor the EPL is. By poor I mean in the context of the “spirit” and “technical” and “coaching” aspects. We are 5th and we are Stoke trying to dine at the high table…
