Frimpong was abysmal.
Hes a bang average player who can get the odd decent cross in.
Not good enough.
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First of alll..
Can we dispel the mythology about PSG vs Liverpool last season? They didn’t give us a lesson or a pasting in Paris. Some of the descriptions would have you think it was four or five nil. We were outplayed, but managed to win the match. Because of courage and positivity. Maybe controversial, but we won the match in a Klopp spirit. Do not give up.
We only lost on penalties at home without our best takers on the pitch. In fact WE were the better side, second half, second leg. We were penalties away from beating the best side ever in world football. Sorry for the sarcasm. But we have beaten better teams.
This fantasy that we should be grateful for small mercies last night is pure irritating. We went with an unfamiliar shape to a CL quarter final because we were hammered last Saturday. We were hammered last Saturday because our players, PL Champions are playing like a fucking factory team, waiting to be beaten. Our captain, our fucking leader and one of the best defenders in the world said we gave up.
We could write a thesis on why its like this. Better people than I cannot explain it, but our team has fallen at such a rate in such a short period of time that drastic action is required.
On a personal level, I invest a lot of time, energy, money and emotion into Liverpool FC . With respect, its more than a hobby.
I’m not entitled, nor is anyone else to think we can go and win every match and every trophy. Our history is littered with hugely dissapointing moments. The thing we are all entitled to is our team playing with some pride, some passion. At the moment we are devoid of such.
I will be lifted with hope, expectation and confidence next Tuesday. Just like Saturday and last night. YNWA
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On last nights evidence I agree. I hate saying that but he was poor last night.
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Why did we pass the ball 
straight back to the opposition?
Drives me fucking mental every time Mascot tries to downplay it to such. People have lived and breathed entire lifetimes devoted to the Club. Some have been left broken and shattered over the years.
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Yeah, that’s not what I’m doing, but you crack on.
I agree, and I think I’ve made similar points to all those at various times.
I’m just saying that I think the business we did was fine. It was the business we didn’t do that was the problem, and in that regard I think the January window was a bigger missed opportunity. There is a limit to how much turnover you want to do in one window.
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That was sad to watch. We were thoroughly outplayed in the smash and grab last season as well, but this felt like a sad admission that we can no longer compete. I will still be building up my hopes for next week however.
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You can analyse it all you want but here is the thing that’s most damning.
Me - a super passionate fan - turned off after the second goal. That says it all.
Losing the hope and losing the fans.
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Oh and £120m for Isak or £85m for Kvara?
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The difference between the 2 teams in possession was stark.
The second we had the ball they were all over us like a rash, 2 or 3 players crowding our player so he inevitably lost it.
Compare that to when they had the ball. All the time in the world to pick a pass as we stood and watched them do it.
Not that being quickly closed down is the sole reason we cough up possession game after game. Most of these players can’t pass water. It’s a fucking fundamental aspect of the game and we’re shit at it, like every other aspect.
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I’ve seen a few digging at Mama on here and that includes after the Man Cheaty game. He has done nothing wrong at all in these games. Let’s not expect him to be Alisson, but he’s the least of our worries. He was superb yesterday and the first goal was a lucky deflection. If you’re expecting him to save it then I think you’re expecting too much.
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I don’t understand why it’s even a controversial point. Just because it’s a hobby, doesn’t mean I’m downplaying the passion people have for it. People can be incredibly passionate about their pastimes. My Grandad was a trainspotter, and I guarantee you that his passion for trains went beyond any football fan I’ve known.
I still remember the ‘it’s a leisure activity’ episode of The Anfield Wrap, which became a hilarious, existential study of why grown men spend so much time watching, spending money on and thinking about 11 lads kicking a football around, and concluded that basically it’s something to do. And these are some of the most passionate Liverpool fans around, who go to every game and spend a fortune following them around Europe.
All I mean by highlighting that football is a hobby is that you have to find some enjoyment in it somewhere, because otherwise you have this massive, all consuming passion in your life that you spend a huge amount of time on and all it’s doing is making you fucking miserable. And that probably makes everyone around you miserable as well. Or you end up like this….
I’m sure that’s true, but it is not the fault of football clubs that some fans put themselves in this position. What you are describing there is a deeply unhealthy loss of perspective. If you are genuinely abeing left broken by supporting a football club, then you are doing it profoundly wrong.
The very nature of football is if your only barometer of enjoyment is the sporting success of the club you support it’s overwhelmingly odds on that you are going to be miserable. There are 90 odd professional clubs in England, an handful of trophies to be won, and only one team can be the best one.
A lot of my family are Sheffield Wednesday fans, and when I was a kid I could have very easily been taken down that path. They were a top division team at the time, and with a little indoctrination at a young age, I could have ended up supporting them. Let me tell you, their experience of supporting a football club right now is fucking bleak. We think we’re having a shit season?
There was an article on the otherwise dreadful Football365 a few years ago asking which is the most fun team to support, framed by the question of whether Man City fans were secretly really miserable. And their conclusion, which came as a surprise considering how much they seem to hate us, was the most fun team to support was Liverpool FC. Because we won with enough regularity that a trophy was never that far away, but it never became routine and soulless. I think I agree with that.
I think we are all in agreement that the manager needs to go, there is work to be done in the squad, some players might be at the end of the road, and there are question marks over the strategic leadership at the club. But we still have to remember that it isn’t the end of the world. We will be back, and it’s going to be interesting watching us plot that course. That’s the nature of this club, and even during the long title drought, we still won shitloads of trophies. Football is meant to be fun, and it’s worth remembering that usually supporting Liverpool is loads of fun.
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Man of match, by some distance.
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It’s your right to turn it off, but I’m a super passionate fan and I left it on, because while part of my brain is going ‘This is shit. Turn it off and do something else’ another part of my brain is going ‘This is shit, it’s going to be interesting to see if/how the lads respond’.
Disappointed like many this morning.
Trying to think it through logically. We’ve played PSG in three games with this one being roughly 12 months down the line.
Comparing the performances we haven’t progressed at all. Not an inch. If anything, we’ve probably gone backwards.
I still maintain we were given a football lesson last year, with the scoreline flattering us. Now, nothing has changed.
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This season definately has a different feel to it. I probably go back longer than most on here but I imagine 95% of us have been through plenty of rough times/ barren years following this club.
In the past it has hurt like fuck at times. Hurt, dismay, anger…any number of emotions. This is different. I don’t give a fuck anymore.
I actually made a few bob last night and feel no shame about it. PSG’s price to win the game was an opportunity to buy money. I don’t see us winning more than 2 games between now and the end of the season so there will be plenty of chances to cash in.
That I am even speaking in these terms sums up how things are from my perspective. I’ve put what I call comfort bets on Everton to beat us in the past and I’ve 100% wanted to lose that money, I fucking despise them with a passion and there is genuinely no worse feeling for me than losing to those nasty, bitter cunts. The money doesn’t ever soften the blow but next week I doubt I’ll be arsed if they turn us over.
Slot has turned a team of PL champions into an unprofessional, unlikeable bunch of spoiled brats with no fight, no heart and no hope. The rot set in before the end of last season and those of us who expressed concern were shouted down as ingrates and cry-arses who couldn’t even enjoy a PL win without moaning. How’s that looking now?
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You seem to be very black and white in your posting. No one is saying we should have gone all out attack. Just not roll over and submit without a fight. Also, we were ‘torn to shreds’ anyway. The only reason the score isn’t 5-0 or more was their poor finishing, VAR and Mama saves.
I try to be one of the more positive posters here, and have agreed with you at times this season as you’ve pointed out extenuating circumstances. But the performances of the last month have been a joke
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Nah, mate. We’ll smash them and Arne will plant our flag in the centre circle
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