Post match: PSG v Liverpool (UCL 8/4/26 8pm)

I realised afterwards what the Tifo was about :see_no_evil_monkey: :woman_facepalming:

We were nearly ripped to shreds!

https://x.com/JamesPearceLFC/status/2042151077395492881

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I think much of this is hindsight bias though. With so much of this season’s failures looking to be due to some sort of coaching failure, this list of recruitment failures is probably over done. I can’t see why the players we have couldn’t have become part of a team with a firm identity playing in the style of either Arne’s previous sides, or even following in the footsteps of Xabi’s at Leverkeusen?

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Yet again, my desire to have the post match thread be a space to actually talk about the match instead of a succession of posts calling for Slot to be tarred and feathered, has backfired on me, so please let me explain my point again.

I don’t find it embarrassing to go to the home of the best team in Europe in the form we find ourselves in, set up in a low block with an extra defender, and surrender possession. It’s a practical necessity.

Plenty of big teams do that, as @sgs noted in his post.

So just looking at the approach, I think it was the right thing to do.

My problem with the implementation were as follows.

  • We still have players switching off and losing concentration in key moments. I think Gravenberch has had an OK season, but he switches off, loses his runner, and it probably ends up costing us the tie.

  • We still struggled to do anything with the ball when we had it, which I think isn’t really about the set up - it is the mentality/coaching malaise that has plagued us all season. Mac Allister, Ekitike, Szoboszlai trying to dribble/hold off three players at a time, turning down forward passing options.

  • Going direct as a way out is a bad idea but Ekitike is not the player to hold the ball up. We’d have been better with Salah, or even Gakpo up top. Poor Hugo had torrid night, by far his worst performance.

  • it would have surely been better to work on this through the international break and play it against City rather than Slot pull it out of his arse with no time to prepare it and train it.

I understand that we shouldn’t be happy a team that won the league and then had 450m invested in it to not be able to compete at this level, and honestly I’m really not OK with it. That should cost people their jobs, it really should.

But we all can see that whatever we’ve spent, and whatever we’ve won, things have gone very wrong and we find ourselves in wretched form and miles off the likes of PSG. So Slit has to cut his cloth accordingly. A plan to get through the away leg of this and still be in the tie can’t be just thinking that we should be better. We all all know we should be better, but we aren’t. So what do we do about it?

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Just a thought. Maybe it wasn’t Slot, rather the players themselves, believing their own hype. The difference being Klopp, would always keep them in check and Slot can’t.

Pure guesswork on my part but it kind of fits with what I’m seeing on the pitch.

I don’t see how he’s better than Caoimhe

I can’t believe that Real Madrid were keen to sign this lad. Every game he is a nightmare. His positioning play is a joke, he can’t head the ball correctly and how he didn’t give a penalty away I don’t know. Every time the ball is near him I crap myself. He would be much more suited to be a rugby player.

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He is either 10/10 or 2/10. That’s the problem. I’d rather have Gomez in the team. He isn’t going to give you 10/10, but he is a steady 7/10 every game.

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I think everyone had a collective moment of getting high on the smell of their own farts. Massive reality check for the players, for Slot, for Hughes. No-one comes out of it looking good.

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@Mascot

It’s extremely tiring with you. I’ve gone through this thread and you don’t half come across as smarmy and ‘this is the way it is, like it or lump it’ to most people.

  1. It’s pretty hopeless to go out there and call it a performance that we had not much of a choice in serving up.
  2. Yes, people have been left broken and also uplifted by this, not least over the multiple tragedies and triumphs that we have had. This is no mere hobby. Trainspot away if you want. I mean, fuck. Of all the things to draw a parallel to.
  3. We don’t need to be lectured by you time after time about what the expectations are and what they should be.
  4. If you haven’t noticed, a fair few people are calling you out on this. You’ve spent the last how long replying to posts that are questioning your logic. Take the hint.
  5. You’ve positioned yourself as the Devils Advocate here and you’re finding it hard to come to terms with anything other than being an apologist for the team, the tactics and the manager regardless of what the evidence in front of you is showing and it’s come down to little more than spin. You’re literally telling guys to ignore the evidence of what’s right in front of them in favour of this pie in the sky idea of reality that you’re peddling.

Give it a break. You’re winding more and more people.

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Was it Shankly or Paisley who said something like ‘if you can’t support us when we’re loosing, don’t support us when we’re winning’

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Not half as tiring has you following me round the forum, misrepresenting everything I write.

Like this…

I’ve talked about the approach being understandable, and probably something we had to do under the circumstances. I’ve also commented on why I think the implementation of that approach was at times a big problem.

What the fuck has that quote got to do with this discussion? And if you want to use it, maybe at least know who said it.

We are supporting the team when they are losing. Thats the issue, its not a hobby. Its way more than that.
No supporter downs tools, walks away when their team loses. But the manner in which we are losing at the moment is worthy of question.

As investors of money, time, energy, and every emotion known to mankind, we as supporters can question our multi millionaire idols about their level of commitment.

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Okay look we’ve had a pretty horrid night last night which is a continuation of a pretty horrid season.
Different people deal with this sort of stuff differently. Let’s please be civil with each other, pretty sure change is coming.

In the mean time just hang in and try not to slag each other off.

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What the actual fuck?

I’ve posted so many times that I think Slot should be sacked. What do I need to do to get you off my back? Call him a useless cunt? Make everything I post about how much I fucking hate him?

The difference between me and you is the level of sheer vitriol we consider it appropriate to level at the people in charge and our interest is causes of our malaise other than the manager.

Put it this way, if you think sacking Slot magically sorts everything out you are in for a nasty surprise. He should be removed as a first order of business, but there are lots of other problems that need sorting out as well.

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Someone I was replying to said that they stopped watching at half time because we were loosing.
Maybe you need to lighten up a bit! :rofl::rofl:

Who made the quote? Shankly or Paisley?

My take, granted I’ve had a few Guinesses to cope with this game
Same old boulevard through the middle of the pitch. PSG players carrying the ball 30+ meters unchallenged time and time again, creating chances for fun.
No pressing, no fight, no urgency. PSG weren’t even that good but our tactics and form made them look better.
Completely amateurish and lucky it wasn’t 3-0 with the penalty in the end.

Thinking we can turn this around means you haven’t watched a single game this season. Don’t even begin to compare this to historic comebacks, the mentality was different, the players used to put in a shift and most importantly the tactics and coaches *were spot on.

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It was Great Bill Shankly

We can’t help feeling frustrated, sad and angry though. It is human nature.

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