I think a big problem is grass roots officiating is a proper horrible experience so the ones who stick it out have to have some sort of ego to rise above the vitriol thrown at them on a regular basis. My view will always be premiership levels refs are a special bunch of narcissistic twats.
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Without doubt. But I think there is a pathway where trainees are blooded as refs fairly early and get their experiences in the much more sanitized environment of trainee football and that gives an avenue for kids who drop out an easier transition into reffing and brings with a different personality set that I think would improve the game greatly.
As I said, addressed before ad nauseum.
And you are talking about systemic anti Liverpool corruption, which was never my starting point.
You are so kern to make this all equal, tell me how many poor decisions went against Man City this season?
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Great, but he was responding to calls of explicit corruption.
Not only do I not think that I said as much.
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You could start with the none sending off of Milner by the allegedly corrupt Tierney which cost them a win at Anfield. 
Following the logic expressed on here by some, that means they would already be champions
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He gave it to us though!
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Seriously? Milner should have been sent offâŚI think Blue Moon is playing with your head. Time to stop before they ruin your life
I didnât see it, but there was allegedly a very strong shout for a penalty not given on the cat kicker (dont remember his real name right now). If thatâs given its inconceivable that City are not already champions.
FWIW, I do think city get the rub of the green, but do so for reasons other than corruption. Firstly, I think they are savvy about knowing how and when to make fouls. The other thing is there is an inherrent difference in how refs officiate a physical team vs a technical one. I know thatâs a broad stroke and Im not implying we are not technial, but there is definitely a more physical, robust side to our game, where City try to play in a more non-contact sort of way. Across pretty much all sports refs tend to punish players and sides who use physicality as part of their game, by overlooking fouls against them and being absolutely eagle eyed looking for anything they do. Think back to watching Crouch for us and the way he was routinely manhandled and got nothing because refs were willing to equalize the physical battle, but then often gave free kicks against him simply for being tall and using his height. Iâm to saying it is right, but its uniform enough across refs and even across sports that there is clearly something to it that explains a lot of the ticky tacky fouls city get that we dont seem to get.
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Rather proves my pointâŚyou donât even remember it. Ask @Mascot . I specifically remember him and others saying he should have gone. He was already on a yellow and ploughed through one of their players. âŚSilva
Yep, I thought the calls for a red were over blown, as it came from that annoying place of treating any foul from someone on a yellow as a potential red card offense, so think the ref handled it correctly. But the universality of the concerns made it clear that it likely would have been a different outcome 9 of the other 10 times.
It was worthy of a second yellow cardâŚTierney let him off lightly. I think if he wasnât on the first one, he would have given it. I think it also helps that it was Milner and the same reason why Kane stayed on. Totally wrong but pretty sure that reputations / status of the player does factor into the decision.
I do remember it but I didnât think it was a red card. For example, it was Sunday school in comparison to Kanes on Robbo.
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I think this is a pertinent point, how many times does Thiago slide in pretty recklessly? He hardly ever gets carded⌠But he gets up, he claims he got the ball with this incredulous reaction as if to say a foul, me⌠a foul?? And laughs it off.
So they donât referee our games fairly and allow pre-conceived ideas to affect their judgement.
In other words, theyâre corrupt.
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The biggest instance of corruption is financial. That is the terra firma on which we need to take a stand. We should have a clear communication piece, and constantly get it across, and it should NOT be Kloppâs responsibility to craft, but obviously he can back it in his own deft and clever way that he has with the press.
I think most if not all teams can point to bad refereeing decisions that have cost them.
Is it equal? Almost certainly not.
And the worst of it is, the higher you go, and the closer you get to the main prize, the more consequential even a single decision can be.
Letâs imagine we lose the league by one point. It would be easy to point to several decisions, that each as single decisions would likely have seen the season end differently.
But on the other hand, itâs a bit of a fools errand, because if we had two more points from another game earlier in the season, whatâs to say Man City wouldnât have responded accordingly to do what they needed to do to keep their noses in front?
I understand the bad decisions, and when intertwined with the wider sense of prejudice against the city of Liverpool, it makes for a real sinister sort of thing to potentially emerge.
But proving it will be impossible. And thereâs every chance that the more we go on about refereeing decisions we would come off as sore losers, while all other clubs would pile on with their own tales of woe at the hands of the refs.
So, all things considered, the biggest corruption in the game is financial. Thatâs what we should confront. And it should be the owners, or CEO who puts a great communication piece together on that. Then Klopp can amplify and agree as he sees fit, when they stick a microphone in front of him.
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Well it seems to me itâs your friend who actually doesnât remember them despite storing them up.
The ball didnât go out of play on the touchline, there was an offside in the build-up. And the âassaultâ by Mane led to the goal being disallowed.
He either has a bad memory or heâs full of shite. I know which one I think it is.
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And Klopp had highlighted such prior to the match.
By vocalising concerns he ensured a level of fairness.
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Yes you are right. My bad memory. I am getting on a bit. I donât have your powers of total recall 
He thought it should have been a red for Mane.
Anyway have a very good evening everyone and letâs enjoy the rest of this fabulous seasonâŚ
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Because we have been do good? I said before we have to be near perfect to win the league.
Because the financial cheating etc gains ground on us.