Post match: Southampton v Liverpool (EPL 17/5/22 7.45pm)

And by god it should be the minimum, they get paid £80k year btw, it’s not peanuts!

If he wasn’t left footed he would still be answering calls giving mortgage advice

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The games are on Sunday at 4.00 PM. :+1::nerd_face:

It’s not. But they’re managing players who average the same per week, and their decisions are potentially worth millions to the clubs involved. I’d have no problem with them getting more if they got big decisions right more often. They should have been deducted wages last night

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Bit older post

I said it in the Villa game thread, John Moss (another one retiring) gave a freekick to the wrong side because he was looking the wrong way due to still trying to catch up with play. It’s pathetic.

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Wtf is Tyler blathering on about

Spurs defence and Chelsea defence are two different animals entirely. They did it have the structure to keep us out in that match and certainly didn’t have nearly the solidity that Chelsea displayed.

Plus we have a stonewall penalty turned down

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Show us a spate of refereeing decisions that have gone against Man City. You’ll find the opposite, crucial decisions going their way, like the “handball” vs Wolves at home, the non-handball vs Everton away, and the constant fouling yet no cards for Cancelo

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And Fernandinho. And Rodri. And the rest.

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But this just points to complete red myopia. Fabinho literally gets away with the same level of shithousery fouling as the likes of Cancelo, Fernadinho do on a regular basis. Pretty sure against Villa he did 4 fouls before he finally got a yellow for the 5th.

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Really? Same level? You sure we are watching the same thing? Just recently (was it Leeds or another team) the sky sports presenters were like “how the hell is Rodri still on the pitch”. Not even talking about niggling fouls…actual hacks

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Yes surprisingly I’ve watched a lot of our games. Milner/Hendo get away with a lot as well.

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If you recall Milner should have had a second yellow in the home game against City. He was a lucky man…

Even Mascot of all people said we got away with that but strangely it is never quoted as an example.of corruption or bias…

and the referee? Tierney…

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But he did that to make people think he’s not biased. It was a dastardly scheme.

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As I’ve said before, it’s by far the worst attempt at an effort of corruption I’ve ever seen considering how few games we’ve lost over the last few years (covid no crowd aside)

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A completely meaningless statement that adds no clarity on why the people involved made the decisions they did. Do they agree he got the ball first? Are they just unable to state with certainty that he went through Jota to get to the ball? I mean, the images looked pretty clear to me and there was no disagreement in the US Studio analysis at half time, but I accept there is a difference in the certainty you need to simply say something on the telly vs overruling a ref in a way that disallows the goal and possibly impacts the title race. But knowing either way would help, and its their continued inability to communicate clearly on why decisions were made (not simply restating a conclusion, but explaining the thought process for it) that allows for such continued confused frustration over VAR. Much of it is misplaced, but it is definitely fostered by their lack of communication allowing for a state of confusion over how its used.

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What is the reasoning (if any) behind not allowing refs to explain themselves or be questioned after a match?
The players and trainers have to explain their actions, why not the refs?

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This illustrates one of the challenges of VAR when doing anything but replaying the sequence in real time. That image is damning, but the entire sequence shows Richarlison also holding the Brentford player’s shirt.

Premier league refs earn about 100k a year, more for those at the top, with significant potential for much increased post-career income. The issue is definitely not lack of financial viability and so the days of this being done as a second job are over. The issue with refs is the way the pipeline to the top is structured that it keeps “football people” out. Much like the cops, the entire ecosystem of it tends to favour the sort of people you dont want in those positions.

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His point is pretty clear. When we overlook the similar list of injustices fans of other clubs cite it biases us towards believing its happening to us and us alone, and therefore must be nefarious rather than a reflection of just how it is across the board. I dont necessarily buy that, but also think there is a huge middle ground in between “in happens to everyone equally” and “we are punished as a result of systemic anti liverpool corruption”, but his point is clear and your counters dont actually address his pretty clearly articulated point.

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