Premier League 2020/21 (Part 1)

Yep, terrible rule, to top it off Utd score, not a good night tonight

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Quality from Pogba. He can always provide moments.

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Itā€™s become far too obvious that the game is bent at this point. Iā€™m not sure I can be arsed following the rest of the season, tbh.

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Itā€™s not even subtle, the way certain teams get preferential treatment and we get fucked over at every possible opportunity.

The thing is that Iā€™ve been saying this for decades now and itā€™s only this season that a lot of people I know in real life (not just Liverpool fans, I hasten to add) are starting to agree with me; itā€™s also becoming a more common viewpoint online, at last.

Better late than never, I suppose.

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Itā€™s so much more blatant this season though, with VAR in place. Last season we got the rub of the green on occasion, but for the most part I felt the decisions were fair. We got our slice of luck when it counted, but on balance we deserved to piss the league the way we did.

This season, weā€™re not just having bad luck or not getting the rub of the green, weā€™re being deliberately fucked over at the most consequential times, whereas the Manchester teams are getting every dodgy call their way. I wouldnā€™t mind if they did the decent thing and called themselves ā€œSports entertainmentā€ like Vince McMahon had to do in the early 90s.

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It reminds me of when I was a kid, I could not quite make out if WWF was a real sport or not.

VAR has just highlighted the mockery of the game. The fact that even with the technology we cant tell if its corruption or incompetence tells us either way massive reform is needed.

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Glad Manchester City are closing in on United. Thatā€™s good for us either way. Will create more pressure on both the teams and we can come from behind. Or if we arenā€™t able to win the league atleast would hope Leicester or City win the league. Canā€™t wait to get our 20th league victory and I just donā€™t want United to go to 21.

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The NFL have done the same thing. They are an ā€˜entertainmentā€™ network. To avoid getting charged under anti trust laws regarding fixing of games etc. (Not a crazy conspiracy theory btw, actually argued by the NFL in court of law). If PL football keeps up this way itā€™s only a matter of time before theyā€™ll have to join that train as well as itā€™s become beyond a joke now, even people who barely support the game can see how rigged itā€™s become.

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Sorry, itā€™s all my faultā€¦

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General football questionā€¦

When did the penalty as it is - a foul in the box is a spot kick - become a rule of the game?

I could look that shit up, but you lot are smarter than the interwebzā€¦

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Yes, but jon moss wasnā€™t the ref in the Juve - Napoli gameā€¦ :thinking:

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Whether you like it or not, it looks like they actually got it correct by the law. Stupid law but it is up to FIFA to change it. Pretty certain that no player on the pitch knows exactly what the law is in that situation and the Ronaldo clip proves that. No-one complained.

Even the ā€œexpertā€ ex-ref. Peter Walton, on BT said it was offside immediately afterwards but on checking the law again, changed his mind

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Agree itā€™s a rubbish law. Is Mings supposed to just let it go and hope that the linesman (sorry, assistant referee) calls Rodri offside? For my money as soon as he goes to challenge Rodri heā€™s active and, therefore, benefiting from having been in an offside position (largely because it means he can remain unsighted to Mings).

Just for clarification though I think it would be the IFAB, not FIFA, who would need to change the law. So really we (the national associations of England, Scotland, Wales and Ireland) only have ourselves to blame.

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Letā€™s put it out in the open. Itā€™s anyone but Liverpool this season.

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This is the issue though isnā€™t it. How do you determine at what stage the ā€œoffsideā€ player can legitimately play the ball? The City player was back ā€œonsideā€ when he tackled Mings.

The first line of the Offside law states

It is not an offence to be in an offside position.

In my view they should start from the premise

It is an offence to be in an offside position unlessā€¦

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Says it all, reallyā€¦

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Am I mistaken or are there more people coming around to the view that the levels of bias in the game are actually real?

I know @Rambler is techically correct in pointing out that the City goal last night is legal, but I think we all know it would be disallowed if it happened for us tonight.

@jaffod spoke about the Saints match and the Everton match as being amongst the most corrupt he has witnessed. In my view the derby was obnoxious and ultimately is responsible for our weaknesses this season. And the referee even tells us after that he got it wrong. The VVD injury can happen, but Oliver and VARS inaction cost points and led to Thiago getting injured.

Isnt it really difficult to get any enjoyment from this? I said last year that we had to be absolutely so far ahead to win the league, that tight margins would be reduced and overcame by bias. Utd will gain 8 to 10 points by incorrect decisions this season, we will lose the same amount. We need to overcome the swing by winning the league by maybe 16 points in that case. Like we did last season. Awkward explanation but you get my meaning.

We need to be so far ahead that bias is nullified. We canā€™t though. Not when brutal tackles, Pickford, Walcott etc go unpunished.

Liverpool in crisis is the media narrative, all while a former ref Clattenburg admits to his corrupt and stupid bias towards United. But lets minimise this seismic admission in the nedia and concentrate on OSG and his assisted assault on the titleā€¦

Covid, corruption, Manc fans, anti vaxers, Clattenburg, Trump, Brexit, Jon Fucking Moss, Brunoā€¦I despair.

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The same year football was invented. 1992.

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