Premier League 2023/24 (Part 1)

It’s not the ‘tough’ away games I worry about. It’s the supposedly easy ones that we seem to not have the correct attitude in. :sunglasses:

7 Likes

Bud, did you really just compare football timekeeping to basketball?

Do I really need to remind you, basketball has a shot clock? Now if you think about it, why does that shot clock exist???

Come on now…

The argument in football circles has been that it is ‘too complex and fast’. But timekeeping in basketball is far more demanding - and not just because of the shot clock, which is comparatively recent (outside the pros, it dates to the 80s). It is just the simple notion that when the ball is not in play, the clock is not moving. You still get efforts by players to break up tempo, but you do not see the same kind of silliness.

1 Like

Issues with the game it’s one that bothers me the least.

I am long since used to it, but this season has been really odd seeing how much of an outlier the PL has become, compared to CL/EL/Serie A matches.

1 Like

completely different game, completely different rules.

you can’t do a corner kick trick (Rooney/Giggs v Chelsea?) in basketball.

Of course it is a different game. So what? Basketball and hockey are different from one another. Both are all things being equal, more demanding for time management by officials. How many years pass between somewhat interesting uses of a silly hole in the rules, how many tedious interludes of ‘cramp’ happen in between? The fact that you are reaching back some 15 years for an example is telling.

It is the same ‘football is unique’ mentality that has led football to make a complete mess of VAR and salary cap/cost containment measures. The refusal to look at what works in other sports and contexts and learn from it.

5 Likes

think about the physical constraints of the game and how taxing it is. Distance travelled over time and how grueling that is. Basketball and hockey have unlimited changes

futsal already exists bud. leave it at that.

How exactly is that remotely relevant? The ball is in play for around 60 minutes. Making that the rule and using a stopwatch would not add any distance or time - it might even shorten it for a few leagues. All it would do is reduce the tedious application of gamesmanship while introducing transparency.

FFS, the sport even has a term for the ludicrously biased and arbitrary use of the clock by officials to manipulate the outcome of a match…‘Fergie time’

3 Likes


Huh? What incidents?

So the VAR audio over the shenanigans we saw in the Newcastle Arsenal game is set to be released tonight on Sky, this gonna be fun.

1 Like

The coach incident is probably one. Was there another involving coin throwing?

1 Like

so adding ANOTHER variable to the officials control over the match is going to cause LESS confusion?

Why do most players start the gamesmanship tactics? Like you said, to change the tempo (or more importantly) the momentum of the opposition. switching to a stop clock will simply provide more opportunities for the players to take longer to restart play. If you think the gamesmanship will decrease by switching to a stop clock, you’re dead wrong.

blinking trailer park boys GIF

How is having it later going to stop that?

1 Like

It is not a matter of confusion. Everyone knows exactly what is going on. They are already supposed to be managing that variable, adding incidents up in their head. Screw it, just let a stopwatch do that. Much easier.

Players are doing it with the full knowledge that it will be rewarded. They will cause the ball to be out of play for a minute or two, and the referee might add 30 seconds.

1 Like

Shortsightedness on how this concept will trickle down to ALL levels of the game baffles me.

99% of the games played on this planet have ONE referee, no linesman. There’s already a shortage of quality officiating in this game and you want to introduce a stop clock.

Sorry pal, but that’s just not thinking this through.

They’re moving it earlier.

1 Like

Football has long given up the idea that the top level, the area where the incentives for this sort of stuff are highest, is to be officiated the same way as lower level games

4 Likes

regardless, the rules still abide to all levels of play. Sadly, I’m helping coach a U-10 team and some of the refs we have are so young they barely know the rules themselves.

I don’t play anymore, but am thinking about getting my refereeing license again and collecting the $60 for a 2hr run on a Friday night.

I think it was lat season’s league game when a young female City fan was hit by a plastic glass filled with coins?
The City fans on social media were saying it was dropped/thrown from the LFC fans above.
The LFC fans were saying the glass was a collection for a coach driver and had been knocked over the stand accidentally.

If I’d accidentally knocked a heavy weighted container from height into a crowd I’d inform a steward and check if anybody had been hurt? :thinking::sunglasses:

2 Likes