Ahem……. I was kissing girls at primary school 
The reverse certainly can. Good friend of mine was gay when I met him. Not effeminate gay, just a regular guy who had a lot of fun with a LOT of men. Cool. He’s now happily married to a lovely girl with 3 kids and he’s happy as larry.
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Who is Larry or should we not go there…
One famous example of that was the singer Tom Robinson who wrote the protest song, “Glad to be Gay”.
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To be fair, Stella is not exactly hypermasculine…
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Maybe he is what using baseball parlance we would call a switch-hitter, can hit the ball from either side of the plate?
Lots of people are not nearly as thoroughly heterosexual as social norms have demanded that they be. Even in some gay communities, there is pressure to be ‘really gay’, rather than bisexual.
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Hence the restraining order?
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one way to get those pesky boys to piss off, that’s for sure…
yes…some friends of ours split, two kids. wife is now gay, hitched up with another lady.
they’re the greedy ones… pick a team, dammit.
Life seemed much simpler in my day…
Yes I know but I am white, straight and old. Not much going for me. No- one listens to me any more.
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And is that why you were eventually sacked as a teacher? 
(Damn: Arminius got there first!!)
Alisson Becker certainly isn’t helping.
Nor his brother Muriel. Their father was a big Johnny Cash fan apparently.
it was simpler. when I was a kid, there was 2 OTA channels on the tv antenna. KVOS and CBC. I had a bicycle, an assortment of unbranded clothing (usually from Fields or Sears) and a soccer ball.
yet somehow during the summer I was occupied playing in the woods across the road, or street hockey, or kicking the ball around with the other kids on the street. I got a cassette player in the late 80’s that could record the radio, and made my own mixtapes.
nowadays, kids are bombarded by outside influence. advertising. Peer pressure from other kids in school who think they can elevate their “social status” by picking on other kids. More advertising.
I’m raising a “mild ADHD” 8yo who has boundless amounts of energy, and at my age nearing 50 it’s increasingly difficult to keep up with him. I don’t think of the ADHD as any kind of detriment other than his inability to master his excitement and emotions though. He’s hella fucking smart, has multiple interests in different activities and very kind to others… Almost too much. going to be a challenge to “harden him” for what the world has in store, but I am planning on taking a step back on that and watch from a reasonable distance. (so to speak).
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If you’re not totally with us. you’re against us? Pretty sure that’s just human nature. Pack mentality I guess.
Same here (12 in my case). And also, as a 45 year old man going through the process of diagnosis with him, it’s scary how many of the signifiers I share with him.
You are probably well on top of this, but my only advice would be if you haven’t started the process of formal medical diagnosis, start now. We’ve left it way too late. You might just sneak in before GCSEs…
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Years ago I used to know this (gay) guy, he was a regular at a pub I used to go to. He was in his late 60s at the time, had a bit of a Clint Eastwood vibe to him, but the more he’d drink the more ‘camp’ his mannerisms and speaking style and voice would get. You could basically watch him go from Eastwood to Alan Carr within a few hours.
I thought it was kind of endearing, but I guess there’s a sad part to it.
Edit: Sorry to interrupt the discussion. @Rambler 's story made me think about it.
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Yet, if you think about it… I’m guessing you a somewhat successful adult with a career path and since you say “we” I’m guessing in a healthy relationship. All is not lost. I think we used to be called “spaz” or “hyper” as kids due to our energy, yet we turned out okay. just some extra work and lots of love to teach them how to navigate the gift of that overly-active brain. it’s 7:45am here, mine is upstairs getting ready for school. He’s not allowed to eat breakfast until he feeds his fish, makes his bed, brushes his teeth and his room is tidy. and absolutely zero TV until later in the day, he could disappear into the idiot box all day.
he’s had a paediatrician since he was 7mo and dropped a pound of weight as an infant. he’s very lean and whippy, loose joints. diagnosis already in, we see his paeditrician every 6mo and are trying to find a way to get back into the family councilor without it costing $150/hr in sessions. our health coverage sucks for her office but she’s really good. I’ve got an meeting tomorrow with my old boss, he’s contacted me with an opportunity to get out of the freight business after 28yrs and I may jump on it. Just have to be careful that I don’t upset our home balance which is pretty good right now with both parents working from home.
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Speaking of kids, our 16 year old son has some sort of uneven learning disability, did lots of tests recently, so now has more support and time for any exams where written English is a big part of it.
Since an early age he has been in advanced maths. That side of things is easy for him. But reading a book, and writing an essay, it’s like pulling teeth.
He does read for pleasure, but it’s different when he has time. When it is against the clock, and he has to write about it, he needs additional help.
Oh, and er, I’m sure my barber, when I was younger and had hair, was gay.