So 50+1 is the concept that a millionaire or billionaire comes in and pay millions and even billions for 49% and have no say in how to run the club? Great idea!
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I feel the majority of this shit at Old Trafford today is purely to get the Glazers out of their club but using the ESL farce as an excuse to warrant going to the lengths they did,and to try softening up fans of every other club to understand the reason behind it.
The Glazers have taken almost 2 Billion out of the club,set them back to being just a top 6 club over the last 8 years,no real competition to City and donāt look like getting any closer to them,the Glazers are like H&G but just lucky enough to own a club rich enough to syphon off huge sums of cash every year without it massively effecting the clubs transfer funds,in comparison with itās competitors.
Donāt get me wrong,if it got to the point where every fan needed to stick together and protest about the game being totally lost to greedy owners,i get that,iād be all for it but this shit today just seemed like United fans have lost patience with the owners and have no other way but to riot and cause friction to get them to leave.
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And honestly, the Glazers probably have profited more than they put in over the years and if they want to play hardball with the fans, let the club be the collateral damage, let it go to the drains, let it go bankrupt, let it be relegated, let it go bust and there will be no more Manures (not that I mind), and if that is what the fans want, so be it. The Glazers have taken enough money, they will walk if they want to but to piss the fans off, they can just not leave, what can you the fans do? You riot, you protest, ok, we get penalized, and when enough is enough, lets just shut the whole club down.
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I think it can be structured so that it becomes beneficial to everyone in the long run. Itās the long run that complicates the issue I feel. Iām looking with interest how things turn out at Bordeaux and will read up on what went on at Saint Etienne.
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Net spend, last 10 transfer windows according to Transmarkt
ManC Ā£406 million
ManU Ā£374 million
Chelsea Ā£247 million
Arsenal Ā£215 million
Spurs Ā£175 million
Liverpool Ā£116 million
Since the 2008-09 season, the first season after ManC were purchased by Sheikh Mansour
ManC Ā£1,278 million
ManU Ā£823 million
Chelsea Ā£551 million
Arsenal Ā£419 million
Liverpool Ā£321 million
Spurs Ā£228 million
So the idea that the Glazers arenāt supporting ManU is rubbish.
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Do share those with us. Iām interested.
The Glazers have made enough money as it is. Man Utd isnāt a drain on their finances. First Allied Corporation their holding company reported net income to the range of 9 billion USD in 2010. They donāt need to siphon money from United.
Nobody needs to be paid Ā£100k per week.
But we donāt complain about that, do we?
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Nope they donāt. Point still remains though. The narrative that the United fans push is that the Glazers are asset stripping. They arenāt. Yes, They did a leveraged buyout which is legal at that time, but the debt has essentially been paid off. And thereās still enough money to make obscene transfers and ridiculously high salaries even considering they did squat post fergy.
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Good morning. Any indications of when this will be played?
Iām sure theyāll arrange something that accommodates Manchester United as much and the Premier Leagueās broadcast obligations. That other 3rd party involved in this game (LFC) doesnāt matter.
The right thing to do would be for this game to be played before their EL return leg. Anything else benefits the devil.
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Exactly why United should have the book thrown at them and the points given to us. The idea that this was some kind of altruistic protest that we need to stand in solidarity with because itās an up yours to establishment and a path away from evil billionaire ownership stealing our soul is laughable. United fans are only doing it because a PL win is still no further in sight than before and a CL win is pie in the sky. Absolutely guaranfuckingteed the vast majority of the people out there yesterday would be perfectly pleased with an oil baron/sheik/state entity figure who would buy them, ostensibly rid them of debt and spend City like figures of money.
I donāt know much about the UK but I have heard these arguments about privatisation rumble on in the background so a quick Google with links.
I am not going to get into the good or bad of it but your public institutions have been privatised, your National Healthcare is looking like going that way along with your universities etc. Football is alternatively described as just a game and not that important to being the most important depending on how the situation needs to be interpreted at the time for maximum impact so is football really the hill to be dying on when it comes to capitalism and greed when there are other institutions that life is more dependent on that have āfallenā into the maw?
The protest has been spun to make the motives of the protest into something that is laudable, worthy of defense and something we should stand in solidarity with and yet again, just as with the ESL, the chief architects of this is the Sky cohort with its United mouthpieces being enabled by their colleagues who know which side their slice of bread is buttered on. Money talks, the masses listen. As always.
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Good morning and I have the same question.
p.s. I really donāt care why what went on went on and who thinks whoās to blame.
Exactly right. There is as much chance of England deciding to establish a 50+1 law for privately owned football clubs, than doing the same for Royal Bank of Scotland, Shell, BP or HSBC.
Iām afraid that this is the reality of the world we live in.
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Damn missed that protest - I was at the Vegan Rights protest in Brighton.
Looking at my diary I may have an opening on the 13th June if we can organise a protest for that day?
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After listening to Gary Nevilleās words again this morning, heās nothing short of a disgrace. His attempts to justify criminal behaviour by a mob of brain dead morons are disgusting and Sky Sports provided him with the platform to preach his rubbish.
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Didnāt know you could enter a stadium in England so easy, or perhaps some people inside let them in?
Will be interesting to see how theyāre punished, since they couldnāt sort the situation out in the whole afternoon. Whatās also with that fear of teamās buses heading towards the stadium, thatās the difference between that and when Liverpool fans throw a bottle or something? Much more āgeneral hatredā, higher risk? Iām a bit surprised with the whole thing, how it happened and how it dragged on.
Anyway, hopefully we play the match soon. Luckily we had a barbecue at my friendās place, so it took my mind off it. I just want to see where we end up this season, what we qualify for in Europe (if we do) and to finally put an end to this season. Canāt wait to f*ck off to the coast, enjoy summer, follow our transfer news and wait for a better/more normal season.
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There is video footage doing the rounds, of so called fans breaking into the stadium by smashing through a glass door. But according to some, in the media, their cause is honourable and their behaviour āunderstandableā. Unless of course, this had taken place at Anfield and Liverpool fans had been involved. Then, their reaction wouldāve been completely different.
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Peaceful.
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