Why not confine it to one thread.
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I will be able to find a new home, no worries. 
In any case, Iâm not going to start copying everything and then pasting the messages here, etc. That would be far too complicated and time-consuming for me and then this place wouldnât be particularly user-friendly for me anymore.
And I certainly wonât search the internet for other sources, itâs all far too time consuming tbh, and easy to say for all those who are just beneficiaries and come here to find out the latest news.
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Donât like twitter. But it has itâs uses.
If you banned it, then I could never source anything, to be honest. Everything would be âMagnus claimsâ. Also, institute of the study of war is far from one of the sources I prefer, they are a tertiary source as such.
I donât really have difficulty in weeding out stuff personally, but I am extremely selective in whom I follow. I am also selective in whom I trust. I donât post 10 percent even of what I actually scroll through in regards to the war here, or anything else (right now I am on a short break, because itâs work-like to post, but I still read daily). But I am good at using it.
I also donât think itâs as dangerous for democracy as you claim (but itâs become more challenging). If everyone decent leaves, there will just be assholes left, so I will certainly not leave and there are very many very ethical people there still, including many professors I like to read. I was using twitter long before Musk took over, years before I made an account even and I will use it in the future unless a different channel which is better that I can find what I used to fin on twitter comes by; and that time has far from come.
I also donât think Musk is getting so enriched on it either (itâs an financial disaster for him, he is only sticking to it due to his pride and ideology imo) and I also, personally, find bans of sources a bit too heavy handed and authoritarian even if I did not use it. But thatâs my opinion. I donât understand why anyone would want to ban it. Itâs gutter if you use it as gutter, but itâs not gutter if you donât use it as gutter, although yes, you have to scroll through some shit. But it is mostly your choice as a user what you choose to believe and what sources you find credible.
The thread on the War in Ukraine will never the less certainly not survive a ban and most breaking news about other matters will no longer be able to be posted here (other than âHey guys, I just read something I wouldd like to tell you about, but have no source, because itâs banned like the Sun; so trust me bro!â )
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Honestly, this entire discussion makes me a bit sad and I am rather surprised. I never thought anyone was seriously actually considering banning the best source for breaking news just because there is less censorship and more assholes there than previously. Fuck those asshole people, including Musk. But I find bit absurd given how superior it is as a source for so many matters, not just purely news, but also how easy it is to read expert commentar on various subjects. Itâs a menu, you are not supposed to eat everything on the menu even though some do. BBC, every newspaper, update on twitter long before an article is written. Do you really want to lose all of that just because the owner is beyond odious ? I donât get it, itâs not like he is making much money out of itâŚ
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All those who are morally outraged about x probably donât use it themselves and I feel like Iâm being reprimanded. Iâm certainly not going to let anyone tell me which social media channels I use, Iâm old enough to decide for myself. And the loading time argument is really a joke. Iâm out of here for now, I find this all really disappointing.
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I donât think anyone has reprimanded you, Livvy. I very, very much hope you will stick around whatever happens, I very much appreciate you 
But yes, this forum will become much poorer if this some how happens (also agree about loading time being bogus arguments, since I have never ever experienced any real issue myself that I am aware of and question if someone is then using a modem from the year 1998). But I am not sure it will. And Hope in your Heart is a thoughful man, he isnât dictatorial, other moderators will also have a say.
So yes, I hope you stick around
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I hope you are âoutâ only for now @Livvy and will come back soon. Personally, I really value your contributions.
I have just cancelled my Twitter / X account as I do not wish to do anything that contributes to the wealth of someone who is clearly a fascist and who seeks to promote fascism. However, I donât think that TAN should dictate which websites or platforms are politically acceptable. Itâs enough that TAN already dictates which websites or Twitter contributors are not allowed because their history of posting made up stories.
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Wonder if the people outraged about potentially lining the pockets of Musk if they open one of @Livvy or @Magnus Tweets will also consider having their gas supply cut off in case its come from Russia or Saudi
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I donât understand the rights and lefts of politics because I live in a world that doesnât divide people that way. So I can assume that everyone has different definitions of what is far, moderate, liberal blah blah so to just ban something over a definition that, granted, just because a majority here defines it, is not that âdemocratic and freeâ isnât it. And on that our beloved club is on X too, should we insist they pull out of X or else we boycott the club?
I donât use X, donât read it, I also am definitely of the opinion that Musk is an egomaniac who must have done plenty of dirty things to get where he is. But to ban a platform because of a âmajority here choose to defined as far rightâ platform does not sound right to me, even if I will not miss it anyway.
Crazy thing is as I mentioned above it feeds off anger and clicks.
It has increasingly gone that way, my head has felt quite relaxed since I moved most of my stuff over to Bluesky. Oddly feels a bit empty over on X anyhow.
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I suppose one of the advantages of linking to Twitter is that it saves people from actually clicking on the actual cesspit. My issue with it is the lies and hate that go on.
If I can read a football story without a series of comments with the usual vitriol aimed against Scousers (or Mancunians, Cockneys, Scots, Irish or whatever) then I would see that as an advantage.
Itâs probably just worth asking people to check that links are from a reputable source before linking them, and that can apply to any links.
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Compromise: ban on the cesspit for everyone but @Magnus
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In all seriousness though, after a little more research, the evidence Iâve seen points towards the suggestion that iframe embeds, like @ISMF pointed out, donât contribute to their revenue in any direct way, and as far as I can tell, donât have any tracking apart from the potential to use Google Tag Manager to do so, but I donât have the skills to confirm if itâs the same for Xesspit embeds.
So the only contribution it has to Xesspit as a platform is just if people click on it or interact with it in any way.
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I donât see why some people are assuming the only source for Liverpool news is Twitter⌠Joyce, for example, is also on Threads and presumably posts the same stuff there. Iâm guessing most reputable journos do similar. And if the chancers and so-called ITKs donât, well fuck them frankly, it would be a better forum without their presence anyway.
I feel like in many cases Twitter (refuse to call it X) has just become habit rather than necessity, and it wouldnât be too hard to adapt were it to become a banned platform.
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Pity that @Livvy has decided to leave âfor nowâ due to this conversation.
She clearly undervalues her own contributions (i.e. the non-X posts), which are nearly always thoughtful and insightful.
It is slightly concerning that she sees her primary forum function as curator-in-chief for X reposts, though.
Would it really be so hard to stay here and just post her own material? 
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Itâs censorship whichever way you paint itâŚwe no longer approve of twitter because itâs now owned by Elon musk who has taken the path of openly supporting the other candidate in the next US election and the leftist of TAN do not approve.
Millions of people who use it read what they will and can on that platform and have nothing to do with politics.
But as usual the ones who have political agendas will be heard because thatâs how the world works âŚeveryone else will have to comply.
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Nope.
As I made clear in the opening post, I have proposed removing X from this forum for two reasons.
It isnât all about Musk.