Maybe they should march in less populated areas?
The Grouse Moors are nice and open 
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Yeah, i gave it some thought after posting the question. The right to protest and even have opposing views has to be allowed but i cant support that behaviour. It’s reckless at best. So the obvious question becomes how do you educate people that have been lead down a dangerous path or protect them from those with such extreme and clearly incorrect views?
Actually, it’s not exactly like that. In 1968, a big virus pandemics happened. It wasn’t a topic, not then, and not later. Neither for governments, nor for the media. Everyone just went on with his/her usual life. At the end, there were a lot of casualties (conservative estimation: around one million deaths worldwide, probably more), but nobody bothered too much, apart from the grieving families.
During the Spanish flu, everything remained open during the whole pandemics: cafes, theatres etc. 60 millions casualties in the end worldwide.
Now, governments are at least trying to minimise the casualty rate. So, I wouldn’t say that our time is necessarily worse than others in terms of respecting human lives. But maybe, we’ll find out in the end, that in some countries, the results of trying to reign in the virus will prove to be more costly in human lives than the virus itself.
Actually, many cities had lockdowns or ‘quarantines’ and similar during the Spanish Flu, and massive internal travel restrictions were in place in many countries. A lot of what has been studied around the weird propensity for second waves regardless of biological characteristics comes from studying different American cities, the measures they took, and how they ended them.
Turns out holding a huge parade to celebrate the end was not a good idea.
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Sorry for not getting back earlier. I outlined it on TIA a long time ago.
Timone a hospital in Marseille (with a renown infectious disease ‘expert’) coordinated with the region to have a testing capacity of 3000/day minimum (pooling laboratory capacity and a lot of streamlining/training …). They then said to the population come and get tested (there were no restrictions anyone and everyone could go and get tested in the centers involved and concerned. This meant they caught the infected early and with the Cholorquine + antibiotic treatment they got excellent results.
Had one of the highest test per population counts in europe. I live in another departement however people here were seriously talking of trveling to Marseille to get tested (the restriction that you need to show certain symptoms was too restrictive in the opinion of this center).
In France now chloroquine can not be prescribed (however I know that pharmacies in Marseille still have to turn people away who have prescriptions for it from the Marseille center mentionned.
Anyway in the 1st wave it was an effective model. This 2nd wave has been more complicated due to seasonal factors (i.e Tourism) which does not really mean the model is no longer effective just that allowing people to gather in holiday resorts was a mistake (however the limitations of the model have been tested in this 2nd wave).
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Thanks @Flobs pretty much what I have read inbetween your postings.
Meanwhile in the UK
a friend of David Icke with strange views.
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These psychopaths must be locked up. Seriously.
Probably i come from a different culture where I believe freedom of speech only go as far as certain boundaries allow, meaning for me, any actions that might disturb the peace and harmony and benefits of the wider society should be stamped. But to some, that is of course dictatorship and I can understand why coming from the other point of view. But I just think either extremes of freedom are never good in the practical world when you have idiots abusing it on both ends
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Freedom of speech is not freedom of responsibility. Every citizen has a social contract with society to behave in a way that does not cause harm to others. It’s that simple.
Be opinionated. Hold divergent views, it would be boring otherwise, and it’s how we progress and better ourselves. But you’re accountable if your views and conduct are damaging to the functioning of society.
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Agreed and very well put. How do you enforce it? Where are the boundaries and what “punishment”
Just to point out that dishing out some kind of punishment, be it a fine or even a jail term only reinforces their twisted views. Drives me nuts to be honest, because on a logical level there is no argument but you’d get more sense from a brick wall.
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Hope she gets it. Hope she recovers as well, but really hope she gets it.
Perhaps ask her to explain this?
Perhaps her and Icke could come up with an explanation 
Fuckwits everywhere at the moment 
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US has now hit 200k dead. When we hit 100K in May the NYT ran an entire front page on the story. This milestone has barely been a blip.
The even more absurd thing, is that while there is no clearly defined beginning of this making it hard to figure out how long it took to hit the first 100K, it’s pretty difficult to argue anything other than the fact that the second 100K came quicker than the first. Yet the if you look at the way society is behaving it seems like the prevailing attitude is that we’ve made significant progress.
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Fuckwits, fuckwits everywhere
Nor any brain to think
With apologies to Coleridge.
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Measured against the July peak, it appears the US has made progress - it is just very difficult to figure what exactly has produced that. One wonders about the testing and reporting regime.
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Yeah, there is definitely different trajectory, but the fact we can still average higher numbers over a given period than during the peak is a great signal that we’ve kind of given up.
The testing and reporting regime is just startling. I have seen data reporting that shows a 67% positive rate for Texas testing in the last week. That cannot be right, or the only tests happening are ones done to confirm what physicians already know.
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It could also be bad reporting by providers. Under normal circumstances, providers don’t send information to health authorities about negative tests, only the number of cases they have identified. A situation like this changes that reporting requirement, and it appears that the lack of organization of the health departments has led to a lot of missteps. We had two large hospital groups here in florida who until recently were still following that typical reporting approach and thus it looked like they were claiming to have 100% positivity rate.
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So… pubs and restaurants to close at 22:00 from Thursday. That’ll sort out the virus in no time.
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