The Corona Pandemic

Maybe if you suck up to the USA they might let you have some of the 60 million AstraZeneca doses they’ve been hoarding?

There are quite a few doubts about the efficacy of the Chinese vaccine, unfortunately. Sputnik performs pretty well though.

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We need to crack on with vaccinations. We’ve got 12 million doses in reserve with approximately 4 million more being delivered every week. If we could do 20 million vaccinations in the next four weeks that will make a massive difference.

Did anyone see that China did 100 million vaccinations in 5 days the other week? :astonished:

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That’s 40 million first doses and 27 million second doses given now (76% and 51% of all adults).

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Do you/UK have any deadline for full vaccination? I guess all adults will be vaccinated by end of the year. I heard you are registering the young people too?

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Germany on 45/20% 1st and 2nd vax.

From Monday all prioritisation will be lifted. AZ and J&J already freely available.

Around 12-13% say they are unlikely to or will never vaccinate. How does that compare internationally?

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Interestingly, it looks like nearly everyone who is willing to be vaccinated in the US has been (c.66%) and the rest are the deniers (34%). Would love to know how many of the latter are Trumpists.

I think the objective was all adults with at least one jab by end of July? Not sure whether there was an objective for fully vax date but presumably it would be within 12 weeks of that.

Not bad.

https://mobile.twitter.com/antoguerrera/status/1399845264068861954

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Dave Keating…

He wasn’t saying the above in Livvy’s post when wrongly rebuking the UK/AstraZeneca for not supplying vaccines to the EU from UK plants, or when the EU was impounding vaccine exports meant for COVAX.

I agree with him on this though but it’s amazing how much more altruistic and equitably minded people like him become only when they themselves are enjoying relative safety.

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The ones they need to butter up for. There is always some disagreement, some allied dictator to be appeased, or some government that wants to be payed under the board for intelligence and so on. Doubt those vaccines will go to “close allies”, more difficult “partners” is my guess. But it is just a guess, albeit maybe a slightly educated one.

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That is true for most people sadly. It is always easier for the mighty to be benign or the rich to be generous. Some exceptions of course (no rules without it), but I tend to view the Maslow pyramid as a nice way of measuring things. Most of the time, you’ll find that altruists are on the top, or close to the top, of the pyramid and can thus afford to be truly altruistic without any true damage to their own interests. It is the same with environmentalism in general. Some very note worthy people are true altruists through and through and find themselves lower on the pyramid and thus sacrifice a lot, but those are note worthy people (but powerless, so we don’t hear about them much).
This is in no way criticism of wealthier altruists however, just my observation that if you are low on that pyramid, you don’t usually have the capacity to care about others outside immediate family, or for instance the environment, to the same degree.

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Very nice reading from our Folkehelseinstitutt-leader today in one of the tabloids.

Run it through google translate, which makes the language awkward but workable. It reads very optimistic (i tried linking the google translate but failed):

Can you summarise?

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I can run it manually through google translate I guess. Note that the linguistical quality of the language goes dramatically down (direct translation not always the best), but you will be able to read and understand unless you are very dim indeed :smiley:

** FHI Consultant:

Think the pandemic is over in August

A normal everyday life is just around the corner in Norway, believes FHI chief physician Preben Aavitsland. He believes the measures can be removed already in July / August.**

“It was that pandemic,” (Magnus note: should obviously be “that was that pandemic”) Aavitsland wrote on Twitter on Sunday morning, over a graph showing the number of people hospitalized - a graph that has fallen sharply in recent times.

  • It was an optimistic message that things are going much better now. We’re on the run-up side. Now it’s just a matter of persevering and not tripping over a hedge or anything. It is definitely going the right way, and it does so because most people follow the advice and rules that apply, and the vaccination helps. Now we are just going to finish the race, then the finish line is not that far ahead, Aavitsland explains to Dagbladet TV.

The FHI superior believes that Norway has now vaccinated such a large proportion of the population, especially among the elderly and people with underlying diseases, that the risk of new waves of patients to the hospitals is much less.

An increasing proportion of the population in general is also vaccinated, and thus it is more difficult for the virus to spread.

  • For every thousand who are vaccinated, the less chance the virus has of spreading in the population. There are no new ones to infect, because so many have been vaccinated. Then this epidemic eventually stops, and that is what we have seen in recent weeks, that the epidemic is about to disappear.

hrøder / NTB

- More or less over

In fact, Aavitsland believes that already in July and August we will live almost as normal.

  • Already now it helps. We are less concerned about the coronavirus now than a couple of months ago, so it helps every week. And when we come to August, I think the pandemic is more or less over and that we are not so concerned about this virus anymore, fortunately, says Aavitsland.

If advice and rules are followed, he believes the finish line may have been reached already in July / August.

  • Now it is the sprint again, and then we must follow advice and rules so that we reach the finish line during July and August, says Aavitsland and adds:

  • As we approach July and August, there is very little infection and perhaps a basis for removing the remaining measures over time.

- How do you think July will be?

  • It is a gradual phasing out of measures and gradually less infection. It is a somewhat difficult transition phase, where we are trying to remove the measures without it leading to a flare-up of the pandemic. It is important to do it in a controlled way. That is the government’s plan, and I think that is a good plan.

Earlier Sunday, assistant health director Espen Rostrup Nakstad told NRK that he believes Norway is the route with the reopening plan. If everything goes according to plan, relief and the introduction of stage 3 can already be expected as early as 17 June - three weeks after stage 2 was implemented at the end of May.

- Do you think step 4 in the reopening plan can be implemented already on 12 July?

  • We are quite keen on the situation and that characterizes our input to the government, so we will see later what the conclusion will be, says Aavitsland.

Not worried about Delta

Aavitsland also does not believe that the Delta variant, also called the Indian mutation, can put sticks in the wheels of his bright future prospects for the corona pandemic in Norway.

This variant may be more resistant to coronary vaccines, while being more contagious. FHI believes that this variant will eventually dominate more and more in Norway as well.

  • We believe that with the measures we have now, and with extensive vaccination and municipalities that are good at stopping outbreaks, we do not believe that it will cause us to stumble on the run-up side, says Aavitsland.

The end.

Note that the entire article is based upon his own personal tweet, which caused him to be interviewed (and then his political boss immediately went out in the media and made sure we understood that “it is not over yet but that it is looking good”). Obviously I hope he is correct, as not having to have Corona at the back of the head is something I really, really look forward to.

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A bit of very minor drama. His boss thought his pointed tweet was some what unwise so they go out in the media to be more precise (I think most people understood that he was firing from the hip, something he said himself, but precision, precision).

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=no&tl=en&u=https://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/i/wea7kP/fhi-ut-mot-egen-overlege-pandemien-er-ennaa-ikke-over-i-norge

By the way I almost adore the awful translation under Camilla Stoltenberg’s picture. I mean, how can you not chuckle at “See happy development” (it is directly translated from “gledeleg”, but the word can’t be used in that way in English obviously, as it should have been “promising” probably or a similar word).