The Corona Pandemic

True. But there’s others that lose completely every sense of logic or common sense and still carry on regardless. But they carry on. I suspect a lot of it is simply down to the drug of gaining attention on social media platforms etc.

of course we all know the Royal family are lizards from outer space right? :wink:

No, I agree. That wasn’t my intention and I know precisely how Jeremy feels! Just the profile Piers would have had would have been even more dangerous.

Blimey mate, I think these days it’s more PC to refer to them as Germans.

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But I saw it on the internet, the unequivocal source of truth.

Off topic I know, but I see Andrew is still in hot water. Rightly so, there’s questions to answer.

Even in hot water he claims he’s still not sweating.

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Hmmm food for thought. Do you sweat when submerged in hot water? I shall have to Google.

but more alarming

Reptiles do not have sweat glands and thus are not slimy, instead their skin is usually cool and dry.”

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Self deception is incredibly powerful. When you’ve got a financial interest in pretending something is true, you don’t need to live that position for very long before you come to genuinely believe it.

I caught up with a friend on Sunday with whom I have a mutual friend whose mum has just died of covid. This friend is a nurse and has been publicly very anti-vax, seemingly resulting in her mum trusting her, not getting the vax and ultimately dying. None of this has changed anything about her vax stance, because to her it isnt a grift. She genuinely doesn’t “believe in” in the vaccine so see no dots to connect between her mum’s bad outcome and her anti-vax position.

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I’m honestly speechless on reading that. Not even that, which can be likened to a bomb going off your head was enough.

I honestly dont know what to say. What can you say?

People are fuckwits.

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I cant. I feel for @Limiescouse and his friends family. It’s so unnecessary. There doesn’t appear to be an ounce of guilt or remorse. To me that’s beyond simply believing something stupid but bordering on a mental illness.

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As always, I blame social media. We’re not going to survive it in it’s current form.

Case in point, I just went on Twitter to look at the Ben Woodburn stuff. I’m immediately drawn in by a video of the Greek wildfires. Sure enough, the comments are full of people saying it looks ‘fake’. I mean, ffs.

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But are they real people or just Chinese/Russian/Republican bots?

This sort of quackery is actually unnervingly common among nurses.

Which is even more disturbing

I’ve just taken part in a Yougov poll on that UN Climate Change report. From those that took part in the poll 18% thought it was exaggerated. You’re right. We’re screwed unless we address the sources and distribution of misinformation.

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Maybe the human population getting killed off might be the best thing, if this is what we are producing

This is what passes as intellectualism in the american conservative movement

Ignore arguments about hypothetical variants. Ignore arguments about the moral responsibility to not put others at harm. The premise of this argument is simply flawed - not even your very effective vaccine will save you in an environment in which a more contagious version is at high levels of transmission.

Simply put, when I high enough % of the population of vaccine eligible people refuse to take it I am still at risk despite me being vaccinated and all the associated risk mitigation, social distancing and continued inability to see my fucking parents that come as a result.

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I’d be fairly sure that there are plenty of people asking this same question who are unaware that they themselves, as well as those they care about, have underlying conditions.
If nobody cared about the greater good, not just covid but everything, then we’d all be much worse off in our lives.

Living in America, especially Florida, I’m not sure I’d see any difference.

But yes, your point is valid…there are plenty of reasons his take is absurd. But even if you take these personal responsibility conservatives at their word, in that the only thing we should care about is ourselves, his underlying point is still wrong. An effective vaccine provides less protection to you as an individual the more exposure to the pathogen other people provide to you. Vaccines work by the combination of improving your immunity to the disease PLUS reducing transmission rates in your community such that your exposure is lowered. As such, a moderately effective vaccine that everyone gets provides more protection to a vaccinated person than a superb vaccine that only you get.

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Maybe we should flip the conversation. Point out how selfish others are not to get vaccinated as it then puts YOUR health at risk. If you really only care about yourself, you need to encourage everyone around you to get vaccinated…and tell them to do the same…

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