The Corona Pandemic

I can already hear the ivermectin conspiracies :see_no_evil:

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Worryingly and looking far wider, there seems to be this idea particularly in the US, that there’s a pill to cure all, no matter what it is. No focus on preventing illness in the first place.

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Cyanide has been around for a while. Roll that out as a cureall and it will soon aid humanity’s progress.

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Not sure what is more worrying

a) The fact that there are people that will agree with it.

b) I’ve got no attempted witty comeback to this at all… nope, nada. Even trying to think of parallels between Trump and disinfectant is getting me no where.

Of course not. There’s not enough money to be made in prevention compared to treatment

Prevention is tough and requires society fucking measures, and even where those are employed pretty well people still get sick. And for them we don’t have great options so lots of them die. We have options that work well for a subset of people, but ones that are expensive and limited in scope because of the route f administration (all IV) and possible side effects.

Any way you slice it, this is a big step forward. The only draw back being related to the reason why certain groups previously pushed other therapies - leaning on effective Tx can be used to ignore public health measures designed to fight transmission. It will be interesting to see if those who were so convinced by the likes of HQC and Ivermectin will be willing to accept this (big pharma supported) Tx.

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I’m sorry for the quality and also my inability to lay the graphs over one another but thought it was worth comparing the number of cases, hospitalisations and deaths in the UK - also aligned to the progress of the vaccine roll-out. Nothing unexpected but thought the illustration works ok…

One thing that bugs me in the back of my mind is that we’ve possibly missed an opportunity to set up properly to deal with it down the line.

We’ve potentially got an awkward Winter ahead and ICU’s still have Covid patients which limits other treatments in those wards. I do wonder if dedicated Covid wards could have been set up? Not nightingale hospitals just specific areas separate from ICU so that those wards can get back to normal.

Massive staff, beds and equipment issues but I still get the feeling we’ve missed a chance again.

Certainly locally they’ve had dedicated covid wards throughout. Isn’t that the case nationally?

I’m not 100% sure to be honest, but I don’t think so. Listening to an ICU doctor the other day who works in a hospital in Mid Wales. They have 20 something ICU beds, 11 were currently taken with Covid patients. During a normal Summer they cope. A normal Winter they struggle. Throw Covid on top of that along with the special measures required to manage these infectious patients and it becomes a bit of a worry

It has a kind of calm before the storm feeling about it even with the vaccine doing the good it has done.

I’m becoming increasingly convinced that the government want the virus to run through the population before Winter. Getting resistance more widely spread.

To illustrate this, 1 in 20 secondary school kids are apparently currently infected. The highest proportion in any demographic at any point in the pandemic.

makes sense although I suspect that was the policy well over 12 months ago.

I can see why this might be an almost necessary thing given what has gone before. The option of simply shutting it out and / or fully protecting the population. Need to be pretty heartless to go with it though.

it’s already here, we’re trying to avoid it. my 6yo now has to wear a mask to school every day

we’re going with dickies instead as he can drop it down around his neck when he doesn’t need it on, and avoid the losing of them regularly.

This story could well be posted in the Religion thread. People in positions of power and being able to influence other’s decisions can do so much damage.

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This statement applies to all doesn’t it? BoJo? Trump? an anti-vax pastor? Would go as far to say that a pastor impacts far fewer folk than politicians, many of whom are lying scumbags.

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UK number of cases look bad, what is going on?
Those shrap declines followed by augmentations are not what you want to see!

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Once again, case numbers are not a great comparator but if we’re looking at curves, they are decreasing

Headline should probably read, “Callum Robinson admits he’s a thick cunt”

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Robinson

“I haven’t been vaccinated, no. That’s my choice at this moment in time,” Robinson replied when questioned on the subject.

“It’s obviously annoying that I’ve caught it twice but I haven’t been vaccinated. Further down the line I could change my mind and want to do it.”

I wonder how many people he infected?