I think its fair enough to challenge them on their opinions. But what I was driving is really not to mock them for not being able to dine in a restaurant, just like in Singapore. Some people are getting mocked at for that calling them 2nd class citizens. I think its uncalled for. And unfortunately, until the government makes it mandatory, you really do have to respect their choice. Just like until the PL makes it mandatory, the PL has to live with only 77% players vaccinated but yet legally they have a choice. I am frustrated not just because people do not get vaccinated, but more so when these people instead of getting vaccinated, goes on to believe in some other theories like how Ivermectin is superior to the vaccines…If the former is irrational fear, then the latter is stupidity. The education, the focus on vaccinations and making policies to inconvenienced them should not stop, but the mocking and gloating has to stop wherever that is happening.
Not really.
Hold them accountable for any deaths that they are linked to through Test & Trace. Once 1 or 2 of them get charged with murder thevast majority of them will get vaccinated pretty fucking quickly
I can’t see that working with our £37bn track and trace system unfortunately. You would spend years trying to prove where people contracted it from but I’m no expert on this.
Flat earth, moon landings etc. Some people just want to believe the contrary bullshit.
Harsh even by my standards. Plus even a fully vaxed and boosted person can spread the virus. Your health isn’t my responsibility if you don’t have the basic protection of the vaccine.
Why exactly do we owe any respect to that choice? In particular, why is there any sort of duty to mitigate consequences? Unvaccinated is not a class protected against discrimination.
I suspect only in extreme circumstances could you prove an individual passed it to another. Short of one person visiting a hermit.
Can we just confirm. Is tickling still one of the options we’re leaving on the table?
They aren’t. But we don’t have to do it. We allow them to suffer the consequences of their choices and rightfully. But that does not mean we have to mock and gloat them.
Were someone to walk around naked from the waist down in -20 C weather, my range of responses would be either to mock them or to call for mental health assistance before they got frostbite. For the unvaccinated, the second is precluded.
…and frostbite is not contagious.
I think ridicule is a great tool in our armoury against these fools.
I beg to differ but you can choose your course of actions of course. When I meet my unvaccinated friends, all I will tell them is why they should get vaccinated. If they still do not want to, then good luck to them. I get no joy, mocking my friends, that will not change their minds. And especially if they get called 2nd class citizens. But again, I state my point on this, as always, on a forum, I leave opinions on the table.
Why don’t you incentivise them? Tell them if they get the jab, you’ll draw them a picture?
I did, they thought that I was telling them that the vaccine might turn them into that glorious horse.
And they still didn’t get it?!
They believe the horse was injected with a tracer chip by the government. Its too beautiful to be true.
We’re not talking about issues where people are just not doing what is good for them (saving for retirement), we are talking about a public health issue. That makes it different from pretty much any other issue, and that is a distinction that is already reflected in law in most countries.
I agree, but not because they dont deserve it but only because it is unproductive in achieving the outcomes we want. It just entrenches people into their existing position.
Well it appears I was wrong yesterday. The little slowing in the case number was met with a 20k surge per 100k.in the 7 day rolling average.
The death curve has also dropped slightly but still a little early on that one.
Greece has gone a bit bonkers as well I see.
Great for self morale but utterly useless as a motivation tool.
Tickling? I need evidence
Don’t take me wrongly, what shocks me isn’t the measures put in place in France. They are more or less doing what every state does right now in Europe. And of course, the non-vaccinated people need to accept that their behaviour leads to consequences for them (basically being confined again). I’ve no issues with that.
What shocks me is to hear an elected president openly state that he’ll mess with roughly a quarter of his population, all the way. That this is his strategy. What does he mean by ‘all the way’? I find this unreflected and frankly, stupid. Just instate the measures in order to control the public health issue. There’s no need for the head of state to further put oil on the already burning flames.
Some people never seem to learn. This is a man who almost got lynched by a mob around two and a half years ago, and yet here he’s at it again: entrenching his own population and creating resentment and fear. What good can come out of that?