One of the many idiots around the world.
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I guess the short answer for you US guys is whichever one will make Trump more money.
Here in the UK there has been a lot of talk about the NHS being used to administer the vaccine. Obviously this creates massive concern on what other treatments are “delayed” while tis takes place. To be honest I am extremely skeptical about the governments motives for this. Had they hired a private firm invented over night by a Tory MP to do this work, without tender and at an extortionate price it would have been true form and easier to understand. But this is unexpected and I honestly suspect ulterior motives, such is my distrust of this shower.
It’s a new vaccine and none of Boris’s friends wanted to take the risk/responsibility when we all start growing extra appendages.
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Overrun the NHS; say it is no longer fit for purpose; sell it off.
Easy.
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That crossed my mind to be honest but I’ve also wondered if they feel a need to stop the obvious corruption for a period in an effort to get the country moving again. Again it’s not really about public health, more about finances.
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I’ve very recently lost my mother to the Covid virus, so whenever I see lockdown protesters in action, it makes my blood boil. I also think that conspiracy theorists need to have a serious word with themselves.
I mean to say, why would the Tories - who as everyone knows, are totally fixated on making money, money, and yet more money whilst simultaneously avoiding spending it on those that need it most - deliberately bring in lockdown rules which both wreck their precious economic model and force them to furlough those put out of work at the same time?
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My condolences.
Sadly the death toll doesn’t raise any real concerns with these people.
I think you may have misinterpreted his post (or maybe I have). He’s criticising those who are resisting the lockdown measures as some form of attack on liberty.
Poorly written post by me (again).
I was referring to the government where the “official” death toll doesn’t seem to bother them. I doubt the ONS excess death figure does either.
The NHS would have the capacity and infrastructure to deliver the vaccine. If more capacity is needed, this can easily be achieved through existing relationships with Private providers.
Part of the reason we have a lot of people not having their operations this year is because the private hospitals have simply chosen not to do them. They were given a big sum of money at the start of the pandemic to allow the government priority use of their capacity if it were needed thereby compensating them for potential loss of revenue. However, those hospitals are still allowed to carry out operations, but if they do they have to repay some of the money back to the government. So they have a choice of either keeping the risk free money from the government while carrying out no operations (and perhaps save on other costs), or paying that back and risking a spread of covid 19 at their premises.
I dont fully agree with you here as I’m pretty sure the government themselves have stated that certain things that are normally delivered from your local doctors surgery will have to be stopped / delayed while this programme is underway. Pretty sure it was Hancock himself.
No argument with what has happened in the private sector hospitals.
Personally I agree that your local surgery is probably best placed to deliver it and possibly more cost effective but it does illustrate a lack of spare capacity in that area. We already know that there are not enough local doctors etc anyway. But the obvious and logical way forward has never stopped this government from dreaming up a new way to filter public cash into private sector “colleagues” and acquaintances.
Why the sudden change?
But as I’ve said I’m just highly suspicious if everything this government says. If Boris told me a cloudless sky was blue, I’d honestly have to check.
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There may be some things that need to be paused while the vaccinations go ahead, but i doubt it will be on that big a scale.
Most of the people using the GPs services will be vulnerable people at the front of the queue for receiving it.
Government funds going to the private sector are largely for buying physical goods (i.e PPE) or to oversee/organise processes that don’t require specialist skills such as storing the PPE, moving it across country to where it is needed, or to test people for Covid 19 / call them to discuss what they should do next based on a script they have been given.
It is difficult to see how Serco for example could offer any value to giving out vaccinations when the people they need to deliver them are already employed within the NHS or private care system.
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All fair, and yet the private sector shove a swab up your nose or down your throat. No training needed there by all accounts. Accountants can do it apparently.
my feelings are obviously born from the way this government has operated. i didn’t trust them previously, I certainly don’t trust them now. I honestly believe every word they say is a lie.
I actually have more concerns about the governments ability to actually distribute the vaccine rather than the actual vaccine itself.
We’ve now ordered 5m doses of moderna. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-54957220
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Well that’s a positive, if it passes all it’s final tests.
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I think with preliminary results like these, the sort of issues we’re likely to see with a vaccine that might derail its approval are really unlikely observed prior to it getting into widespread use.
HA, I just read that back and its sounds more negative than i meant it to - meaning my intention was to say that approval is now pretty much a slam dunk, not that I expect problems once everyone has been dosed.
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While a working vaccine is a positive, how quickly do we normally wait before introducing new drug products to the market, are we rushing this without finishing final testing.
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It makes it difficult to know whether we want the elite cunts to be given it first or not, eh?!
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One concern I have is it’s affect on those with current medical conditions, in particular Auto immune conditions. I don’t think that has been tested, although I don’t know if that is common practice either.
Well… in reasonable quantities, why not? 
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