The German Election

The election is tomorrow, right?

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Yes

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Big picture, what is the best reasonable hope for Western civilization, democracy, etc, in tomorrowā€™s election?

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DDR Indianer-wibes mixed with, what is this exactly ?

I apologice, not very relevant. But the advertisement looks bonkers and everything is so serious, much is frightening in the world today, so a little smile canā€™t hurt:

https://x.com/ronaldglaeser/status/1892506792011194423

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Demonizing the Green Party and declaring them to be the main enemy was so unbelievably stupid by the Union.

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Iā€™d really want the SPD to remain the major party in Germany. Scholz isnā€™t a great chancelor by any means, but at least, heā€™s not batshit-crazy. But it looks unlikely, because he has as much charisma as a dead turtle and is incapable of bringing up a true alternative vision for the future.

So, it will be the CDU with a guy at the helm who demonizes everything which is on the left spectrum of society, while openly toying with the idea of allying himself with the AfD. Iā€™m afraid that the current pressure coming from the USA will only accelerate this horrible alliance. From where I sit, Merz looks like the typical weakling who will follow the easiest path towards power, even if it endangers the very foundations on which modern Germany has been built upon.

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Ha. Kind of a big questionā€¦ Depends on what exactly you mean and who you ask I guess.

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Of course it isā€¦just wondering what the realistic set of outcomes are, Hope outlined a somewhat negative possibility (CDU + AfD) as being likely. Does the SPD have much of a chance?

This is about coalitions, Merz will be chancellor unless all the polls are monumentally wrong.
I donā€™t think CDU+AfD is likely at this moment, though Iā€™m a bit worried for the future. Especially if the only other coalitions that are possible are inherently difficult/unstable.

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A coalition CDU/AfD would be political suicide for Merz cause in the last two weeks he repeatedly said that this will not happen. I would not be very surprised if we had to vote again this year.

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What would be the public reaction if thereā€™s a CDU+AfD coalition?

I mean, whoā€™s ā€˜the publicā€™? But yeah, this would set the country on fire, metaphorically and possibly literally.

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The importance of coalitions is why the ā€˜likelyā€™ nuance is important, and takes a fair amount of background information to understand (which I donā€™t really have).

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Iā€™m sorry. Iā€™m trying to explain as easy to understand as possible, but this shit has gotten fricking complicated, not the less because of the sheer numbers of relevant parties

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Yeah, sort of what drove my question - most of the German elections I can recall, there was a Coalition A vs. Coalition B kind of choice. This one looks like the voter choice is nowhere near as clear as that. I was just wondering if any of the discussed configurations can actually be ruled out as very improbable.

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For the moment at least (hopefully for the future) I think CDU+AFD is the least likely.
ā€˜Grand coalitionā€™ (CDU + SPD, like we had for the majority of Merkelā€™s chancellorship) would probably be the ā€˜easiestā€™ to manage and most likely - IF they can get enough seats.
If not they would need another party - most likely the Greens or the FDP (if they make the 5%).
Or theoretically try a minority government, but weā€™ve never seen that on the federal level.

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This is the dynamic that makes it difficult to understand, because that would appear to suggest two very different coalitions.

Yeah, which is why looking at those parties at the 5% threshold (FDP, BSW and although they seem to be above that, Die Linke) might be so key to the actual political outcome.

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Why would Germans try smashing a French Police Nationale patrol car with a trolley? :rofl:

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we just canā€™t help it :wink:

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