The problem that you end up having though is you can’t pick and choose which trans women to allow to compete on the womens tour.
It has to be, yes or no.
Only 2 other golfers finished higher on drive distances, no figures for the other 26.
Lexi Thompson is one of the biggest hitters in womens golf.
She played in a mans tournament last year courtesy of a sponsors invite.
She played off the same tees as the men.
She didn’t make the halfway cut.
I don’t view it as has been callously put as "a man in a froc"k, but wnen it comes to competing in sport for money, where biological strength is an advantage, it’s basically cheating.
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The problem that you end up having though is you can’t pick and choose which trans women to allow to compete on the womens tour.
It has to be, yes or no. [/quote]
You can if you make criteria for competing a bit less basic than “Did you used to be a man?”
As I said, there is a huge difference when in someone’s life they transitioned.
Calling someone competing in sport ‘cheating’ is pretty fucking callous to be honest. If the games authorities are telling them they can compete it isn’t cheating, is it? You might say it isn’t fair, which is a debate.
The man in the yellow tie is black. He has just been subjected to multiple “jokes” about being black, culminating in being called an “oreo” (black on the outside but white on the inside). The coverage of this has focused on Pirro saying it, but look at the glee of the other 3. The whole body laughs coming from the shared understanding that “omg you’re only supposed to say that sort of thing when none of them are around to hear it”. This is precisely why non-white people are so distrustful of predominantly white spaces and why it is so important to root out such spaces.
Why don’t you actually post the footage if you’re going to make such biased claims.
FFS, the BLACK mayor of NYC is referencing to his leadership group as “chocolate”. Don’t you understand the context of it all? Oreo, Snickers, Cadbury egg mentioned by that panel. Pirro also black…
Pirro is most definitely not black. She is of Lebanese ancestry, and regardless of whether she identifies as Arab American or not, that would classify her as white (caucasion) by census standards.
Adams is a fucking fruitcake. What he says or does should not be taken as a standard by which anyone else’s conduct should be judged
There is of course a massive difference between how a person of one ethnicity/race will take about that vs what is appropriate for other people to say about people of that demographic. Adams using the word chocolate in that context is using it to create commonality with people. Gutfield calling Ford Jr his chocolate egg is of course entirely different. That is a statement pointing out that he has differences that, according to him deserve being point out to everyone. Yes, context is important
The use of Oreo is another level on from that. In this context it is an identification of how he may be black but can act white enough to be acceptible…as if being educated, articulate, or wealthy make him white passing. Of course that is astonishingly racist when used in the context Pirro is using it (very different from similar phrases that non-white people may use about themselves to describe their ability to “code switch”). Again, yes context is important.
Finally, the point is the reaction. They knew it a “naughty” hence their laughter.
Showing the full clip doesnt provide any cover for how appalling this entire episode is
This might not be exactly the same situation but when we are doing standup comedy, thats precisely the problem we face, is that “you are not supposed to punch down, but punching up is ok” but to another group of us, we believe that comedy is comedy, there was this comedian who was Muslim and he was making jokes all night about Islam and his own Malay race and of course the Chinese but then a Chinese comedian went up and started also making jokes about the Malays, he actually complained to the organizer that "the chinese guy is in no position to be making jokes about Malays when they are enjoying the chinese privilege in Singapore’. He was banned by the organizer (who is a black british guy just for the record) from all future events.
There are millions of things in the world to make jokes about. Why do people just concentrate on cultural differences? It’s totally boring after a while.
Of course, but every jokes if crafted well, as long its funny, it does not matter what you do. Comedians all have different styles, and of course audiences will like who they like, just like you have a preferred movie genre, musical style etc. I started to appreciate stand up comedy only when I started doing it. I use to think its just going up to stage and tell all the nonsense that you have been telling your friends. But crafting a joke to the point that strangers will laugh at is an art and that is why I do not believe that there should be boundaries. If someone wants to go up and make jokes about controversial topics, so be it, if it is more offensive than funny, the crowd will make it known. Like recently, we hear so many jokes about the Israel/Palestine war. Some managed to craft a humourous context while some despicably just tag onto the current trending topics and delivered a monologue at a comedy show.
EDIT: and my previous post was more about why it was ok for the Muslim guy to make jokes about another race but when the other race make jokes about his race, he plays the victim.
