The Owners - FSG

For fuck guys give Klopp money for a quality midfielder before the fans turn on you like at utd.

Weā€™ve got Scrooge McDuck in charge of our purse strings? :man_shrugging:t2::person_facepalming:

Or weā€™ve put aside Ā£100mil to sign someone next summerā€¦ Iā€™d expect this is at the request of Kloppā€¦ Not FSG. The only thing about the Bellingham deal which Klopps eludes to is Dortmund want Ā£146mil (double the Sancho fee) to sell this summerā€¦ Iā€™d expect weā€™ve said no.

Itā€™s crazy to think we are witholding cash from Klopp to spend, we clearly were about to sign Tchouameni for around Ā£60-70mil, that money hasnā€™t gone anywhere. All the other signings have cancelled eachother out, Mane for Nunez etc.

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That money never existed in the way fans think it does. There isnā€™t a pirate chest or briefcase full of money for Klopp.

The club do not work on the basis of ā€˜this is your budget - go and spend itā€™. Signings are judged on their merits. For an excellent young player, with lots of opportunity to amortise that spend, resale value etc. money can be found. They might have found Ā£60m for Tchouameni. That money isnā€™t there for Casameiro (just to pluck an example from the Twitter fine crowd)

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There is clearly budget available for the right midfielder to be signed. No itā€™s not sat in John Henryā€™s bank earning interest but we will have an amount earmarked, including the full spend over the contract.

Itā€™s probably bullshit but I have read our scouting team kept pushing Nunez on Klopp and he declined the signing.

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If this is the case then it is on Klopp to make sure this team is in a position that the Ā£100m player still sees us as an attractive destination come next summer. This form carries on too long and weā€™ll be in a real battle for top four and that could be pivotal to both our appeal and finances for this unicorn signing next summer.

He also needs to stop making remarks about not being in charge of spending if this is indeed his choice.

So we have 100m for Bellingham next summer and no other club are going to come in for him and pay him double the wages. Let us pray :pray: we get top 4. :grin::grin:

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Itā€™s an interesting article, as always with Swiss Ramble. This guy is a genius, really.

One answer to your question might be the following:

#LFC have invested Ā£241m in infrastructure (stadium and training ground) in the last 10 years, mainly in the period between 2015 and 2017, which is a lot more than #MUFC Ā£136m.

Or this one. We pay almost as much wages as man utd now :

In 2014 #MUFC Ā£215m wages were 50% more than #LFC Ā£144m, but the gap nearly disappeared in 2021, down to just Ā£9m (Ā£323m vs Ā£314m). Liverpoolā€™s wages were higher in 2020, mainly due to bonuses: Liverpool won the Premier League, while United did not qualify for Champions League.

Generally, itā€™s a brilliant read, and one which is very comforting for the future of our club. After all, itā€™s the prudent and purposeful way of how the club has spent its money which has allowed it to almost close the gap, which was immense ten years ago. No doubt that barring a for now unforeseeable catastrophe, weā€™ll shortly surpass them in financial terms.

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Iā€™m pretty sure this decision was made before we lost - Jones, Thiago, Keita to injury and Henderson, Fabinho picked up knocks.

We played with the risk and got it wrong, it happens.

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but how good would it be if there was?

just to clarify, assume you mean the Nunes player that went to wolves, not the Nunez player we ended up signing? (as in the player was eventually forced on Klopp)

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Never been 1 to say anything bad about FSG, you could go through every of the 3570 posts in here & you wouldnā€™t find 1ā€¦under their ownership just over 10 years ago now weā€™ve seen the best period in the clubs history for well over 30 years. In the summer of 2010 we were a effectively a finished clubā€¦

But I have to say after this summer Iā€™m not so sure on their ambitions with the club anymore.

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Yes, the midfielder.

Well thatā€™s obviously Klopp after training ends. Goes into the treasure room, closes the door carefully, puts his pirate hat on, opens the chest, andā€¦ :yum:

I think it shows just how much of a financial power house Utd were when the Glaziers took over. Weā€™ve had to rely on income from player sales to help close that gap and help us spend on new players while our income catches up - but now that it has our cost base has also increased (but moves like this summer may have helped on that front and again next summer)ā€¦when sales arenā€™t forthcoming it really limits our ability to buy and so extra care is being taken to limit the number of duds we buy incase we get stuck with them further reducing the cash we have available.

Weā€™ve also invested into the clubā€™s infrastructure.

The Glaziers are also big fans of using debt and other peopleā€™s money. Itā€™s also a publically listed business so the owners will from time to time sell additional shares to the public to raise cash.

And the hook, donā€™t forget the hook! :rofl:

Finds that the kitty is empty ā€¦ :smiling_face_with_tear:

Nunez or Nunes?

On a separate note; I have said it many times, new signings arenā€™t just subjected to the availability of funds itā€™s also subject to availability of squad space and wage budget. We currently have Keita, Ox and Milner and these three combined probably take 12mil. We need to clear spaces in the squad and wage bill.

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Both of whom are due to come off the wage bill end of this season. I am sure we are not so rigid in our structure that we canā€™t absorb one year of wage overlap for one player.
Plus if we were prepared to get Tchouameni this season then clearly we could afford both the wage and the transfer fee. The club knew a year ago that ManƩ was leaving. So Darwin was already in the plans.

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