The Owners - FSG

[jabu]

best decison i made in the last 20 years is not joining twitter

[Draexnael]

@mattyhurst

Sadly we know very little and I don’t think the Journalists do eithier.

We don’t know what FSG are seeking to do and we don’t know what they have said to Ward, Graham’s decision seems to have been months ago rather than in the last day or so. FSG would have had to replace Graham, potentially the suggestions have not pleased Ward.

Alternatively if the sporting model is being relooked at this has impacted on Ward’s decision. I do think the sale or acquisition of a sizeable part of the club is far down the road and maybe the new guys want to switch focus hence Ward has gone.

Alternatively Edwards has a new role and wants to bring Ward in or even any new guys want Edwards back.

The clubs ownership needs to be sorted but more importantly for the here and now we need this medical lead to be appointed.

I wonder what Joyce has said is what prompted Ward to quit, let’s be honest they didn’t just dream it up in the last day or two when they found out about Ward.

The TAW are indicating this is due to Klopp getting more control/say in contracts and transfers. So the data guys are being ignored hence leaving.

[mattyhurst]

TAW are taking what Pearce is saying and then making a guess.

Sorry they know little more than we do.

[aussielad]

Meh,

ALways thought Apple was a shit product that merely copied others ideas with a razzy I-name to get all of their fanboys jerking themselves stupid

[Notasuperfan]

So far bar for the Nunez deal recently, the rest of the other deals has been pretty shit…

[jabu]

not sure if thats good or bad… the model was working just fine except for funding

[RedOverTheWater]

@gasband

I get that other clubs are not playing by financial rules etc but what others are not doing right should not mean we should or need to join their unethical spending. And disparity in spending is not new or unique to this recent years albeit difference in scale. In the 10 years prior to the Premier League era, where we were dominating, we were top spenders, only Manures who have won nothing during that period topped us. And the other league winners during that era were Everton and Arsenal who spent half of what we did. So disparity of spending has always been there. I don’t like it, I don’t think its fair but this is all the more why I appreciate our current principles of running a club and still won titles, rather than joining the rats to try to win everything.

Just want to say that I’m not calling for this.

I know your post isn’t aimed at me, but I am trying to point out a possible third way, besides spend what we earn, or unethical spending.

The third way is to spend what we are permitted to spend, per FFP.

At present we are some way short of that. One way to spend more on the squad might be if the owners were more willing to put their own money in to cover infrastructure, in the knowledge that their payday would come when they sell up.

It would require a more benevolent owner than FSG, but one who still operates within FFP, and is definitely nowhere near the end of the spectrum marked unethical or worse.

Note:
It appalls me that this is necessary. My preference would be a rules based order, where our solid governance would see us continue to be competitive. We have been competitive to date, and it has been a hell of a ride, but I read FSG putting the club up for sale as a sign that they don’t think they can compete over the long haul in the new age of sports washers.

[Draexnael]

@mattyhurst

TAW are taking what Pearce is saying and then making a guess.

Sorry they know little more than we do.

Just reporting what they’ve said, no idea if it’s true or not. So many different scenarios which could be playing out here.

[mattyhurst]

Basically what I have said carries about the same amount of weight.

Considering what I’ve read about Klopp it sounds a little bollocks to be fair, if it has indeed happened then it’s probably Edwards related.

[Livvy]

We’re getting sold, new owners probably want to bring in their own people/model.

That’s my feeling tbh.

[jabu]

my thoughts too… stuff like this happens when u being bought

[Artrain]

Question is, why would anybody with any sense would want to tinker with a well running operation like us? The only thing that is throttling us is funds. It’d be like buying a Jaguar and swapping in an Opel Corsa engine.

[Livvy]

It could well be that FSG offered to keep them in a similar role in one of their other businesses.

[GaryBarlow99]

What other deals?

[mattyhurst]

Well there is only Ward left of the three amigos so to speak.

Graham announced he was leaving earlier in the season.

[RedWhippet]

@aussielad

ALways thought Apple was a shit product that merely copied others ideas with a razzy I-name to get all of their fanboys jerking themselves stupid

The iUnited is going to be a game changer.

[redfanman]

Klopp looking for someone to discuss transfers with

[Klopptimist]

@Hope.in.your.heart @Mascot This or DIC?

Now there’s a choice.

[Limiescouse]

@mattyhurst

Those moaning about him now want to moan about what’s happening and how the roof is caving in.

See if Edwards is opening to returning.

While you can always make poor decisions in personnel that affect performance, a robust system should be able to withstand people leaving, even good people. It’s not great that there is such an abrupt transition, but this shouldnt be catastrophic by itself. The obvious elephant in the room though is this coming on the back of Gordan stepping back and the potential for change in ownership.

@mattyhurst

If Edwards announces he has a new job in the next month or so it wouldn’t surprise me.

Graham possibly, but it would be difficult to understand Ward following Edwards after having just been promoted to get out of his shadow to then go straight back into it.

[Draexnael]

@Limiescouse

The obvious elephant in the room though is this coming on the back of Gordan stepping back and the potential for change in ownership.

I think that’s the key part, any of these recent changes in isolation are all part of the normal bau of business… So many at once will always raise alarm bells.