The Owners - FSG

[Semmy]

@RedOverTheWater

To what degree is that set of circumstances acceptable or unacceptable, with prospective new owners?

where does their money come from, how did they get it?

Oligarchs and Tyrants need not apply

[RedOverTheWater]

@Semmy

@RedOverTheWater

To what degree is that set of circumstances acceptable or unacceptable, with prospective new owners?

where does their money come from, how did they get it?

Oligarchs and Tyrants need not apply

It’s hypothetical. I’m talking about a private citizen. A wealthy one. Not a despot or a rogue government agent.

Let’s say they earned their money by owning some land, and it turned out there were proven oil reserves underneath, so they sold the land for a percentage of the profits of the reserves underneath.

Cha-Ching. They made many billions.

It’s hypothetical. But I’m trying to sift out to what degree it is acceptable to us, as Liverpool fans, to have a rich private citizen buy us, from a nation we generally do not approve of.

[Nobluff]

@RedOverTheWater

Let’s say they earned their money by owning some land

If it was the US I could 100% guarantee that someone here would link it to slavery, apparently there is no such thing as clean money when you get to the Billionaire money. 900m and you have a chance of being ok, but 1billion and you have some major skeletons in your closet.

[deneb]

There’s probably not enough hypothetical information to give a blanket yes or no.

Made money legitimately, but what else has this person done with it? Do their other businesses employee migrant workers but under pay them and treat them like shit?

[redfanman]

@RedOverTheWater

It’s hypothetical. I’m talking about a private citizen. A wealthy one. Not a despot or a rogue government agent.

I would assume it would have to be a consortium as there are not many billionaires in the middle east and most of them appear to have assets of around ‘just’ $2-3bn, otherwise they may just be frontmen like the Everton owner.

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[Nobluff]

@deneb

There’s probably not enough hypothetical information to give a blanket yes or no.

Made money legitimately, but what else has this person done with it? Do their other businesses employee migrant workers but under pay them and treat them like shit?

Elon Musk took away free lunches from his Twitter employees, monster, disqualified. Yes, extreme example yet this is what happens when you get to a specific level of wealth.

[RedWhippet]

@deneb

Do their other businesses employee migrant workers but under pay them and treat them like shit?

Those cheap consumer goods that everyone is happy to buy are knocked up in sweatshop on minimal subsistence wages somewhere.

We could have paid a few pennies more for them to have a modestly decent wage but we all love a bargain when we don’t have to think about the consequences.

[deneb]

Certainly I would be against Musk for many reasons. Also Bezos based on the treatment of Amazon workers.

[deneb]

@RedWhippet

Those cheap consumer goods that everyone is happy to buy are knocked up in sweatshop on minimal subsistence wages somewhere.

Not everyone is happy to buy. Plenty of people try to buy ethically produced products as much as they are able to.

[Semmy]

@deneb

Also Bezos based on the treatment of Amazon workers.

I thought his factories were in China, not South America?

[RedOverTheWater]

It’s a tricky one. I would imagine that any billionaire would have skeletons in the closet, or an aspect of their business that most in here would disapprove of. The common things that come to mind would be low cost labor, poor working conditions, moving money offshore to avoid taxes, etc.

Let’s imagine our potential new owner has his fair share of that sort of stuff, which we might call garden variety billionaire baggage.

They are a private citizen and not a government agent of a nation we disapprove of.

They have the money. They like their football.

To what degree would we accept such an owner?

[RedWhippet]

@RedOverTheWater

They are a private citizen and not a government agent of a nation we disapprove of.

They have the money. They like their football.

To what degree would we accept such an owner?

Basically a latter day Jack Walker.

[Klopptimist]

Ultimately, given football is now absolutely a business, why shouldn’t an owner dump billions in to win everything?

Surely this horse has long since bolted.

[Dane]

@Mascot

@Dane

I didn’t ask for, nor do I need your help.

If you think there is no difference between Labour and the Tories, you do need help, and we’re staging an intervention.

What I said was, there was no difference in the trustworthiness of politicians across the board.
Thanks for your concern, but I’m sure I’ll be fine without anyone’s help

[peterroberts]

I think most people would trust Keir Starmer more than they would trust a pathological liar like Boris Johnson.

[Dane]

@peterroberts

I think most people would trust Keir Starmer more than they would trust a pathological liar like Boris Johnson.

I never said Boris was trustworthy.
But it’s like a choice between trusting a rattlesnake or a cobra not to bite you.
I dont trust any politicians, they’re all full of promises during election campaigns, but rarely follow through with them when in power.
Obviously a good memory is required regarding broken labour promises

[Klopptimist]

The classic gun sketch from The Thin Blue Line comes to mind here. Just substitute “do you want to own a gun” for “would you like to be an MP”

[deneb]

You know, I was almost certain there was a politics thread somewhere around here…

[Redbj]

yeah, id be close, but im not so confident in myself to walk away…i mean, i cant help but watch this world cup.

also, i wouldnt walk away from football, just the toip leagues.

[WeeJoe]

Fuck them both. This is the LFC owners thread and most of the hope that remains is that Klopp is still at the helm. All the highly paid heads of research are superfluous. We could get a £10bn takeover and still be worse off if we lose Kloop