The Owners - FSG

A point also, I’d be ignoring anything to do with Utd, their price and suitors…

Utd are a publically traded company, so any news which seems like good news is spiking their share price meaning their value goes up… There are also many parties who will stick their name in the public domain for some PR and never following through.

Not a fan of irony then

I am curious. Fans are divided on ownership by Daudi or Qatar. What if FSG are fundamentally against sport washing by these regimes? Should they be criticised for not selling out to them?

Tbh they are venture capitalists and we can spin it either way, but I don’t think many venture capitalists give a shit what/who they sell to once money is put on the table .

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FSG will get criticised whatever they do. They’ll never spend enough money and if they sell, whoever they sell to will be worse. Lose lose situation.

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The problem is that you seem to see our success exclusively linked to big spending, when there is so much more to it. Otherwise, how do you think that we managed to be competitive for so many years now?

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Complying with FFP ? :grimacing:

Without getting into the merit or lack of merit of other potential ownership groups, I have a simple question:

If FSG are to continue on as owners, do you believe enough funds will be made available for the squad, to keep us competitive moving forwards?

By competitive, I mean able to challenge for the Prem and the CL.

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Having seen your post just above, I will elaborate a bit. There are lots of factors coming together for our recent success. On the financial side, we haven’t spent the most, but we have been able to spend, and we have seen small, medium, and large purchases all being made to build Klopp’s team.

Moving forward, do you think we will be able to do the same as before, in the new market?

For example:

€120M Bellingham (a record, Van Dijk level sort of purchase, transformative)
€60M Kone (now a mid price signing, and we have had lots before, only €60M is the new €30M!)
€0 Evan Ndicka (we’ve done good Bosmans before, e.g. Matip, and someone like Ndicka could be his long term replacement)

So I’m not calling for us to be a cheque book team.

I’m asking if you think that under FSG, moving forward, we will continue to be able to shop at all levels of the market, as necessary, and as we have seen before, in order for Klopp to complete the building of his next great team?

If you don’t mind me answering this one?

Given what Chelsea are doing, Newcastle, City and very soon a United with money to burn, we stand next to no chance of competing long term under FSG and I fear for Klopp’s future without “ammo”

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I am, but a bit slow to it sometimes. Apologies :face_with_open_eyes_and_hand_over_mouth:

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Yes, the clubs earning power has increased in recent years and there will continue to be value to be had in the transfer market. In addition we look to have some costs coming off the wage bill this season with several players expected to leave and fewer bonuses being paid out.

A good summer window and we will be back on track.

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This summer window will be a good indication in what direction we are going with FSG, struggling for Europa League/Conference League or CL.

Looking at the last window where it was clear we need midfielders but nobody came in I’m not optimistic :sunglasses: but I hope Henry will surprise me.

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Team that always spends lots of money acts by spending money. Fans with misdirected anger towards momentary lack of competitiveness, who mistakenly ascribe it to “lack of spending and too much attention paid to [insert other FSG entity]”, feel vindicated at club doing what they have always done.

Clock then strikes 9 for the second time today.

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No they are not. I get you likely mean business people, but VC is a specific sort of investment that carries with it specific requirements for the business that don’t really apply to people buying and running an already established business. The goals and approach are very different.

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Or to play this game, the club only have £10m, buy Bellingham but fail to strengthen elsewhere, where needed.

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best part is about this…if you turn Twitter off nobody can hear their whining.

Older I get, the less I care about the “opinions” of those on social media. I use it as delivery method of news and information from sources I either trust or vetted well and I stay away from the keyboard warriors in the comment sections.

I trust in Klopp and believe that FSG is doing the right thing. Their success in the past 7 years should speak for itself. The only clubs who have consistently bested us are R.Madrid and Citeh. That’s a pretty good place to be, especially considering the financial situations of those two

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Agreed.
Choose which feeds/users to view and there’s nothing wrong with Twitter.

It is a handy tool on here to use against peoples arguments though, nothing like a short sharp “everyone on Twitter is a mong” type response :roll_eyes:

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FIFY

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This could easily become the Liverpool path too with FSG as their owners.

By refusing to stray from the path they claim will lead to sustainable success, the Red Sox aren’t cultivating sustainable success; they’re ensuring sustainable mediocrity.