The Owners - FSG

Good question. IMO yes.

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I don’t see much value in comparing baseball to football, to be honest.

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That is a bonkers take. The fact other clubs are starting to adopt what has for years been considered bad practice doesnt mean it has now become good practice. The Sox not joining isnt by itself evidence of them falling behind competitively, unless you apply the same bad “summer transfer window trophy” analysis to the situation where all the matter is how big a contract you hand out.

It’s worth noting that one of the examples it uses of the sox falling behind, Correa’s 13 year deal, has fallen through not once but twice since that article was published. He ended up being signed on a much more normal contract - a 6 year deal worth less money overall but for a higher per year rate. So now the team that landed him are not committed to probably half a decade of overpaid underperformance. You know, because doing that is generally considered bad practice.

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I totally agree, and I am a Dodgers / Red Sox fan.

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Yes. Because fsg will continue to strengthen the club in commercial terms, and the stronger it is, the more competitive we will be. More importantly, they’ll continue their long-term strategy on how to improve the club on all records. That’s really the point in which they are so much better than most other owners, and which has allowed us to become competitive over the years, even against recurrent FFP cheaters. Our current blip is something which happens at all clubs, we shouldn’t read too much into that. Even PSG, an utterly oil-fuelled club, experiences a similar blip currently.

So yes, I’m confident that going forward, they’ll do what is needed to maintain us as a competitive unit for the CL and the PL. It’s even incredible that this needs to be said, given our extraordinary consistency these last years in challenging for major honors, and also getting quite a few of them along the way.

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I guess the question would then be why would they do that? They could just put the money in themselves and retain their shares. Admittedly I’m no expert here so happy to hear why that makes sense for all parties.

Also, does that in some way get round FFP at all?

I actually applaud what the Sox are avoiding right now. Look no further than the story of Tatis Jr and how absolutely sour a long-term contract can go…

it’s fucked that baseball arbitration will force teams to pay more to players, but will not give the team any breaks when it comes to a player doing something stupid.

Because the value of the club goes up in line with the new capital, so although the original shareholders % ownership shrinks, the pie itself is bigger and they don’t have to tie up their own cash to provide the new money.

Its similar to what is happening at Newcastle. Staveley’s % of the club has shrunk as the Saudi owners have injected more cash into the club.

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The headline is misleading, since it’s essentially saying no more than what Broughton said, i.e. FSG are exploring their options.

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You Cant Do That 60 Days In GIF by A&E

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There’s a reason why it’s called the “Major Leagues” not the Major League.

Money by and large is the strongest barometer of success. FSG in their capacity to date haven’t done near enough. Risk averse, lack of ambition, call it what you want but the club cuts too many corners.

FSG will indeed strengthen the club commercially but it’s all relative. It’s competitive sport after all, and we’re not the only big club or club with money.

Challenging is one thing. Winning ultimately is another, and not on an infrequent basis. I would prefer new owners with some ambition. Each to their own.

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How many other football clubs do you support?

I enjoy watching all sorts of football. Fubo has games from SerieA, Ligue Un, Bundesliga and some south american matches

I only get up at 4:30am to watch Liverpool though.

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Direct quote from FSG member, that interest has come on two fronts, buy outright, or partial invest.

We don’t know what they will choose to do, but this is more info, straight from the horses mouth, so to speak.

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I know mate, I used to live there. Still doesn’t sit right with me :grinning:

I’m a Yankees fan as I used to live in NY (upper west side so near the Bronx). And this was when they sucked and just started getting better. Started following them the season before Jeter’s rookie season. It was a great ride

Thanks for the responses to my question above.

I don’t have a strong view one way or another about the owners. To date, FSG have been good, and have done what they said.

Moving forward I think they will need to loosen the purse strings more to keep us at the top table.

Some people don’t think they will, and that they will be too conservative in terms of funding for player recruitment. Others think that they will do more there, as needed, and the revenue we generate will cover it.

Or perhaps a partial investment that sees new capital injected into the squad, FSGs holding being diluted, but the value of the club going up so everyone is happy enough.

Like everyone else, watching to see what happens…

Haha fair enough.

Being west coast I grew up with Tommy Lasorda and the Dodgers. Wasn’t much of an M’s fan regardless of proximity. But 2008 I got to visit Boston and fell in love with it. And Fenway.

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Agreed, what I meant is merely that it’s just additional confirmation that they haven’t actually decided what to do.

It’s not like there are any other options for that interest right?

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Indeed. So, haven’t we been competitive in the last years?