That’s completely fair.
I don’t like the blame aspect of what we did and didn’t do in transfers.
I prefer to see it as a list of players needed, and like most normal teams that are not artificially inflated, we cannot buy them all at once. So we make choices.
Now, it’s a fair argument to say that we should have brought in a couple of midfielders, but it’s also fair to say that three of our biggest recent transfers - Diaz, Nunez and Gakpo, will be important players for us in the new side Jurgen is building. I’m glad they are all here.
We are now at the stage where strengthening the midfield is sorely needed, and very obvious. We also have several wages coming off the books, so if we don’t address it this summer, then I’m ready to pile in with the blame game.
Up to now, I’m happy enough to say a mistake was made in the order of recruitment, and managing the midfield department has been lacking, but now let’s sort it out!
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Agreed, no need to keep rehearsing the blame game. There’s been a collective screw-up with recruitment, but both Klopp and FSG have enough grace in the bank for us to trust them to put it right
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This. There will always be calls for more money to have been spent, but you cannot look at the money we have actually spent and not think there was enough money to have retooled the much maligned midfield if we had viewed it as a priority. It’s easier to retool areas that aren’t priorities when you have more money to spend, but the fundamental issue has seemingly been a misjudgement of the collective ability of our midfield to go again this season.
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exactly this…
Klopp is part of the problem because he took on the project, early days we had lots of money through sales to buy massive upgrades, now we end up giving contract extensions to players to keep the squad full. Now half the team is not able to perform like they did because they are burnt out. Last summer we ended up with a loan crock for 4m.
I know some of you will never allow others to have a different opinion and keep repeating Klopp said this and klopp said that without understanding why, he has to toe the line and he said he knew he would be restricted under the fsg model.
I don’t think any other manager in the world would have achieved what Klopp has here with the same resources.
All is good though fsg are going to back Klopp this summer. 
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Did you happen to hear Anfield Wrap interview with Klopp? Neil Atkinson asked him a question about midfield, and Klopp absolutely flew at him - there isn’t anyone better available, it’s too hard to improve on what we have, our lads are better that you lot think they are, if there is someone available we’ll move, back the lads we’ve got.
Then with a few days left of the window, Klopp is apologising, and giving it Mea Culpa, about the state of the midfield.
That isn’t doing a PR job for the owners. Sometimes the simplest answer is the right one. Klopp thought the midfield could go again. He was wrong.
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A lot of great managers can be stubborn
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I’m really not interested in picking that game apart.
bottom line, their midfield was better than ours. has been the last four or five times we’ve played them. We’re not a galactico living in the south of Spain, with a billion dollars of debt hanging over the club. Nor are we bankrolled by an oil fund. We’re a self-sustained club with one of the best managers in the world, and we have a transition of midfield happening this season. The season after we just missed a quad.
Going to see this season out and hope for some positive changes in the midfield. All of this crying over spilled milk is just ridiculous, petty bullshit and I’ve never seen so much shade thrown at other board members in the 10years+ I’ve been doing this on TIA/TAN.
it’s fucking football, folks.
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Prefer to see it as loyalty rather than stubbornness. Still a blind spot of his, but a noble one
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Seems that Ornstein have already been briefed by FSG and pretty much confirms that no UCL, they will not take the financial risk to spend on elite players to overhaul the engine room.
Seems that my predictions are slowly coming true should LFC not get UCL positions this summer.
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Well then Jürgen bears some of the responsibility for this because of his refusal to retool midfield this summer
Give it a rest, the same Ornstein who basically made an entire fluff piece of how FSG were going to sell based on some information they were open to investment. He’s a clickbait merchant, he knows the FSGout brigade will be wanking off with copies of his latest “senstational” headline.
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All this is true but we shouldn’t pretend like we didn’t need a Nunez either…we lost 3 forwards last summer…Klopp does have to hold some accountability in that regard, but like the rest of us many didn’t see the collapse from the entire spine of our team until maybe after the Utd game where we were still without a win in 3 and the window was still open…only then did we start calling for recruits in the midfield.
I believe we only had a 40m budget this January and I believe the players Klopp wanted in midfield were out of our budget so we went for the next best option (being Gakpo)
Well it’s either that or face further financial risks down the line…ball is in their court really.
2 of whom never played and didnt make the bench when everyone was fit, and one of whom the replacement was already acquired in the previous winter window. I get why we went for him, and I have great expectations of him, but it was a choice and was not one made by FSG.
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And I don’t believe any football club has thought about budgets in those terms for about twenty years.
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He’s kinda stuck in a very horrible position in the summer of 2022. This summer saw Minamino, Mane and Origi all leave the club in the same window in the summer of 2022 which made the replacement of the forwards being a more critical place to replace with the available budget.
For the 22’ summer window, he then signed Nunez to replace Minamino and/or Origi where the previous winter window saw Diaz as a Mane replacement. Fabio is still very raw and is not really considered as a first teamer yet.
The mistake Klopp made was thinking that the midfield could go again in the summer and then finding out his old troopers are not up to it mentally and physically 4 weeks in. Hence, the Arthur loan happened. As for the January '23 window, my guess is Gakpo is a signing brought forward at the right opportunity to replace Firmino.
I will find it incredibly baffling if Klopp will reject an additional 150 million pounds ( after the Nunez deal is done) in the summer of 2022 just to show loyalty to his old lieutanants like Hendo, Milner and Fabinho and literally forgo the chance to offload AOC and Keita to not take an “Andy Robertson” type of deal for the midfield.
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Ok valid point but you still need numbers in that area, and we’ll face the same scenario in the summer when 3 midfielders leave…2 midfielders of whom wouldn’t usually make the bench when everyone’s fit…but it’s irrelevant, we still need a 23-25 man squad, we compete in 4 competitions.