So you’re talking about everybody here then? Or are you saying that all football fans are poor? If this isn’t a stereotype, not sure what it is. It reeds that everybody who goes to the match is poor / working class. Do please correct me if you meant something else.
Tickets will always be too expensive for someone out there, either for personal financial reasons or simply just felt it so. Its hard to tell people that the tickets are already very cheap if the person simply cannot afford it of course but I guess we can only look at it at a very objective point of view. I think the tickets for our club of our size is pretty reasonable. If I remember correctly, our season ticket price is not even in the top 6 or 7? More nearer to the middle amongst all premier league clubs. For the infrastructure that the club is trying to invest in and around the stadium, it is also great they had not use tickets prices as a leverage to offset some costs of the investments they made and purely used the clubs revenue and some small “loans” from the owner. So while we cannot say its cheap, we have to say, that our ticket prices are in line with reality of running a club this size and some would say we are even underpricing but considering the kind of club we are, we have to balance between a global club and commercial power and being a truly people and community club. I am also curious are there any sort of statistics at least informal ones which shows how many community and subsidized tickets are being resold to touts. Because the prices I have seen is ridiculous. I think a 9 or 19 pound ticket, I cannot remember were being resold for 110 pounds. And such tickets are overwhelmingly being abused, you wonder whats the incentive to keep prices low, because apparently some fans who had access to such tickets are abusing it and taking it away from fans who truly want to attend and cannot afford it otherwise.
The problem is that football is a business now, not a community thing.
Clubs charge whatever they can get away with and would ideally do away with season tickets, and instead fill the ground with day trippers who would spend loads on merchandise, if they could.
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Absolutely. The soul of football was sold to the devil many years ago. Like any business, we’ll charge what we think we can get away with. Would doubling the price half attendance? Probably not but as I said above, the vocal mob hold the whip. Yes there is a value to our fans’ participation in the game. But like everything in society right now, prices must go up.
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Agree with everything except that.
Prices don’t have to go up; that’s optional. However, in order to remain competitive on the field, the club needs to maximise its revenue.
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Not really pleased to hear the price rise, to be honest. I understand every football operations needs to continue to evolve with time , but considering the whole country is going through an economic crisis and so many people have lost jobs and have hardly any money to even get by their daily needs, post covid, this is a kick in the teeth.
My issue is with the timing of this whole thing. Post covid, the economic crisis for working class has been at an all time low. I can vouch one of own mates who has lost his job with a family of 4 to take care. And, let me say this, it is not easy for everyone to find a job. Some of us are lucky who either have a college degree or lots of references , who can get them a job or even run their businesses. Not every one is born with a silver spoon.
The kids are very young and his wife suffers from a chronic disease so she can’t work anywhere. He has shared with me that there were times this past year or so, where he literally had to sell his matchday tickets to someone who wanted to visit anfield, as the delta money earned by selling their ticket helped them get through a couple of weeks. And, he will not be in a position to renew the season ticket next year.
So, yeah, I can see the side where everyone says this is required for operations, revenue and all that. But, a club should always keep fans above everything. For me, FSG are not skint that they couldn’t live without this price hike, when the lower middle class is already suffering.
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FSG are not a charity. There are also people working at the club (not involved with the playing side of things) who will be needing pay rises.
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Seriously mate, people are getting sacked and pink slips are being handed across the world, who on earth is really thinking of a pay rise in this economic crisis.
Are you on a wind-up?
Inflation is at 10%, and you’re asking if people are thinking of a pay rise?
Jesus wept.
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I simply responded in the context of people in football club asking for pay rise. I was not referring to the whole world in the first place. Because, the post I was responding to mentioned about the pay rise for people in the club.
Please go through my whole sentence in the context, no point in only picking one part of it.
People who are having jobs , are really lucky to be in there, because of the economic situation. They are not thinking of rises when they are lucky to hold on to their jobs. That;s all I meant. Hope this helps.
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We have near record low unemployment levels in the UK with a lot of people in jobs facing substantial increases in their living costs - so yes, many of them will be thinking about pay rises. The average pay rise this year in the private sector is expected to be around 5-6% and lower in the public sector.
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Many people are also having to scrape by to afford food and heating. For those people, having a ticket to a football match is a pipe dream.
Those that can still afford a ticket can probably also well afford a 2% increase. At least, that will be FSG’s calculation. Even with the increased capacity next season I doubt that we will see many empty seats.
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You realise every buisness is in the same position?
As for the rest of your post I’ll be tactful. Priorities. 4 kids, unstable finances and a season ticket.
To be honest, you know what I meant.
We both know that…
Your place of privilege might warp your understanding, but you still get the point.
I am pretty sure of that.
And you’d be dead, dead wrong. My finances are my business but never believe any small business owner who claims everything is rosy. My finances are absolutely linked to that of my business. House on the line permanently. That’s the peril, risk and danger of following the mantra “Leap and the net will appear.”
I am curious as to exactly what you meant though. Do you mean that all match day goers are working class or everybody in the country is affected. It’s a simple question. Just prove you’re not stereotyping as apparently you don’t. Or don’t bother, these spats don’t tend to play out well for you.
The UK has more vacancies than it does workers available to fill them. While the number of job openings is reducing there are still significant shortages.
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So the 10K Civil Servants outside the Home Office at this point in time, the London Tube staff, Junior Doctors all on strike today, the Nation Rail staff up and down the country striking over the next 3 days, the ambulance staff, teachers, nurses aren’t thinking about pay rises with the current inflation being 10% and likely to continue rising for the next couple of months at a minimum?
Sorry dude, but you sound like your on the wind up.
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More likely just too young to really understand.
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Not all match goers are working class. And agin, you know that. But for clarity:
Liverpool as a city, and Liverpool supporters have a high number of working class people.
If football is serious about people then it is essential that people can afford to go to matches. Its not all about corporate boxes and high finance. It is about people.
No one is being asked to pay for anyone elses entertainment, but being in a position to afford football is a place that lots of people cannot be.
Putting up prices is essential, but its also fair enough to think about people already financially squeezed. And that isn’t necessarily confined to working class. And once again, I think you already understand that.
Your last comment?
To be honest I don’t really care. What works out well is expressing an honest opinion. Not always correct, or popular but thats ok. If I am incorrect, fine.
Not working out well for me?
Not effecting me.
I don’t need to be always right.
Try it sometime.
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The whole country is looking for pay rises and going on strikes.
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