and yet SOS’s own suggestions for how to avoid the ticket price increase list several measures to increase match day revenue. They cannot themselves think the average attendee is cash-poor
1 Like
I just wish I could get 2 tickets…
As a general comment, sometimes we would do better to be more charitable and see the gist of what people are saying, rather than get into the minutiae.
In this instance, I see someone say, essentially, that people are struggling in this economic climate, and putting up the price of match day tickets, with other revenue streams being so healthy, is a misstep.
The other side of that (which I would lean towards) is that the club has shown restraint over the years in putting up prices, and this is a very modest and overdue increase, well under inflation. Costs for the club are going up too, so it is all reasonable enough.
Beyond that, SOS speak in language that is too strong for the issue in hand, and I don’t like the notion that they speak for me, as I think in this instance FSG are being fair enough and would have been justified if the increase was a bit more again.
7 Likes
Like many on here, I wouldn’t suscribe to SOS, or see them as representative of my views
2 Likes
If the tickets were put up for sale on a free-market basis, how much would they actually cost?
I just put ticket costs from the 1980s (when the club was at it’s peak) into an inflation checker.
A ticket for the Kop (which was all-standing at the time) would be around £9 and a season ticket for the Main Stand around £250. Clearly there have been some significant above-inflation rises in that time but in the early 80s we didn’t always sell out every game.
1 Like
But the club didn’t see restraint.
They backed down because of SOS.
And much as I don’t see SOS as broadly represntative, they did keep the prices at the same level.
But it does raise the question of who exactly they are representing when they condemn what works out to about 0.3% increase per annum since the last increase - at a time when average wages and prices are both increasing significantly
2 Likes
I remember most people who actually thought this through at the time pointing out that this was self-defeating – they were trying to raise the price of the most expensive tickets, the day-tripper tickets and hospitality tickets, which would in fact subsidise the average match-going fan.
1 Like
My payrise covered my rent rise pretty much last year , in fact there was a small period in which I was £85 a month down it’s pretty desperate thankfully I had things I could cancel.
Going to a match is luxury an increase of £19 over 8 years is frankly a bargain.
My food bill went up more in one year.
6 Likes
Let me reiterate what I said in my initial post, because the actual point has been completely lost.
I never said, I am against the ticket price rise. I just said I am not happy about the timing of such announcements.
And, yes , I also said, that not everyone is able to talk or think about about pay rises with the whole economic situation in alot of sectors. I agree , if inflation is over 10% then people do deserves a pay rise. But, do we all get those sort of hikes or are we allowed to think about ?
Let me give you two of my own examples:
- I am working in a company where in 2020 : hikes were frozen
- in 2021, we were given flat 3% average hike across all hierarchies, no bonus
- Now , when we thought, things seemed better in 2022 , but Dec 2022, 2000 employees were fired from my company. The remaining ones running scared, if they will even have their jobs. In such scenarios, myself including, so many people I know in my company cannot really think of hikes, we are just pleased we have something in hand to feed our loved ones.
And the other example of my cousin. She left her job in Nov 2022, and was due joining in Jan 2023. The company pulled out the offer and did that for over 300 candidates. Now all these people like my cousin are left in a limbo, because they resigned from their previous job and now the company they were supposed to join, has revoked the offers citing financial crisis reasons.
So, yes, there are many sectors which do deserve hikes, there are many vacancies available in certain sectors, but it’s not all the same and it makes sense that we don’t see everyone with the same glasses.
3 Likes
Now this one is interesting. You don’t advertise if you don’t have availability and you don’t have availability if you have sufficient demand. Paid FB adverts, odd. With a capital O
I doubt LFC does social media ad buys on a week-to-week basis, but presumably, yes, they must have some of their hospitality package seats still available. Somewhat surprising looking at our April schedule, some prominent matches there - but how does that compare to prior years? My impression of these ticket packages is that they have always been at a substantial premium, aimed at the ‘once in a lifetime’ market.
3 Likes
Using Facebook? Odd with a v in front
1 Like
If a ticket is a luxury they are beyond that.
Though i have from time to time noticed stuff for sale and then gone through only to notice it’s basically out of date.
2 Likes
Yeah, my impression of some of those algorithms is that they don’t actually manage dates/inventory particularly well, as compared to relevance (for which they are positively evil - I have a long-running multiparty conversation in Messenger. When we started talking about 3D printers suddenly all my ad feeds started showing them, Facebook and Google). They may have had inventory at the time of the allocation a month ago, or the like.
2 Likes
That’s fine and everything but we are arguing 2% rise on a luxury here.
A ticket to a football match is a luxury, a £19 hike after 8 years of none for the majority. In which time two stands have been rebuilt.
I’m sorry having been on the cusp last year I have little sympathy, I’ll save that for those who have to choose between food and heating.
I’ve not seen those adverts for a while but when I have done they are always sold out for anything that I can see.
I think contrary to the point that was being made, it’s also to create a sense of scarcity. You click through on the ad only to find that the tickets you wanted are already gone. You then fear missing out on the next opportunity, so you buy as soon as you can, never mind that the prices are a little higher than you might have wanted to pay originally…
3 Likes
Sorry, don’t get you?
Ah, as in very odd? OK, FB is mainly middle aged people now. Kids are on tick twock or instatwitter
dude, stay off her? or wrap that jimmy. if you’ve got four kids, no whining about ticket prices.