That is you opinion and as I said I have been pro FSG throughout I have liked, mostly the way they go about it, however their response shows that they have total disregard for us the fans!
They would need to do a lot to instill any faith in them from me
Our bargaining position with UEFA is now essentially nil. This ESL was a handy tool as a threat to play. Now weâve played it and everyone has experienced the reaction, Bayern and UEFA have everyone else over a barrel.
Yes, DIC had a deal agreed with the club. Moores said that he grew concerned when he heard that they had drawn up plans to sell the club within 7 years of purchasing it, plans to raise ÂŁ300m for working capital, and their failure to agree to the purchase of steel for the building of the stadium by a set deadline. Moores then met with them in January to tell them he and the board preferred an offer from H&G, at which point DIC withdrew their offer after Moores, refused to sign the deal.
From memory, doesnât their apologies usually take a day or two?
I wouldnât be surprised if one follows later this week once some of the this starts to calm down and they have a better idea as to what will follow. Probably a more encompassing one than from what we have seen other clubs offer.
Yes, thatâs right. I remember being both understanding of how heâd be reluctant to sell to DIC given the 7 year plan, but then horrified that it seemed like by default G&H were seen as good long term custodians because they werent planning on selling within 7 years.
Tbf, DIC wouldnât have been any better. Bunch of frauds.
Have you seen the Arsenal one, at least some thought went in to it!
I believe a good summer transfer window will do the trick!
Some new shiny toys always work and would love to see it happen, but realistically canât see it
Yes, but I donât think Arsenal received as much attention as our club did over the last couple of days. An apology from FSG would probably need to be stronger to begin the healing process, if it can begin at all.
They should/would have some top PR people around you think that they may have consulted them and put something better together, even Man U mentioned their fans!
I do wonder how much H&G being American swayed this.
I live just outside Indianapolis. Brit, now joint citizen, lived here 12 yrs. The Indianapolis Colts have a passionate local support. Iâve been to a number of games. Early in my time here the rivalry between Manning and Brady was fresh, and the Colts were big rivals to the Patriots. I went to one of those games and the noise was incredible.
The Colts have a newer stadium, Lucas Oil, all brick, looks lovely and wouldnât look out of place at all as Liverpoolâs stadium. It has a retractable roof and one side opens up too. (Itâs nothing compared to the Dallas Cowboys stadium, but itâs still very impressive).
As a measure of fan passion, Iâve been to games and seen a few fights/scuffles. Nothing serious, just with rival fans, usually a bit of drinking and rowdiness, and with no âawayâ end, so no segregation of rival fans, occasionally Iâve seen a punch or two thrown.
Not condoning that in the slightest, but as an indicator of passion, sell out crowd, noise, passion, etc. Itâs all there. Indianapolis is a fair to middling city - not a giant like New York or something, but about the 12th largest city in America.
Oh, and strangely, the Colts arenât even from here. They were in Baltimore, and Baltimore wouldnât give them the deal they wanted on a stadium, and Indianapolis would, so Irsay, the owner of the Colts, got them out of Baltimore in the middle of the night, and they set up shop in Indianapolis. Think it was 1984. They built the RCA Dome and then another new stadium after that, Lucas Oil, as mentioned above.
The model here is weird, as to my way of thinking, the club belongs to the fans, but in the American mindset, the franchise belongs to the owner, and the owner will do what he will to maximize revenue⌠usually around two factors: tv market and tax/stadium breaks the âhostâ city is willing to give.
Anyway, rambling now, but passion is not a problem, at least from what Iâve seen of the Indianapolis Colts fan.
My guess is the apology will come from FSG directly, not the club - that might be the way to begin rebuilding the relationship with fans. The statement as written does read cold but we donât know how much more behind the scenes is going on - for example, did any of the recent investment into FSG only happen because investors believed the ESL to be a done deal?
As you say it was COLD, that is what I find shocking, it is an emotive time for us fans at the moment.
Those who were here (TIA) on THAT day will have their F5 keys mounted in honour of the achievement of LFC being rescued from catastrophe. Compared to the last 48 hours, that means more.
We should leave the lovely Linda out of this. Fine woman, that one.
Fine.
It sucks because these owners saved us from a terrible fate. I donât see a way back for them
Who do you want to buy us?
Sovereign Wealth Fund?
Leveraged buy out with the club paying?
China?
Seriously, the FSG out shouts are deafening but are any of you giving any thought to what next?
This club is valued at ÂŁ2bn quid. Have you got in mind any benevolent, community spirited billionaires with a weird desire to throw all their money at a sports vanity project so scousers can call them a cunt and cyberstalk their missus?
We would be better off being owned by a sovereign wealth fund - at least, they might care about the history of the game and understand it.