God a fucking hundred times this. If I’m ever typing an email address into and it autofills a random email address I don’t recognise, chances are it’s one of the many financiers whose email servers were taken down by LFC fans trying to stop Twit and Twat.
Anyone comparing FSG to H&G needs to give their head a wobble.
Murders gay people. Will buy us Haaland.
Swings and roundabouts innit.
Absolutely not. I don’t want our club any where near the sportswashing that occurs. You see how those wankers at the Emptihad bend over backwards to excuse the human rights violators that own them. Yes it sucks now but it could be worse
“Absolutely not. I don’t want our club any where near the sportswashing that occurs. You see how those wankers at the Emptihad bend over backwards to excuse the human rights violators that own them. Yes it sucks now but it could be worse”
Which is why I cannot take it seriously when prominent, outspoken, Man City players take the knee and then take the tainted money. Taking the piss more like.
It’s OK, all the world’s billionaires have squeaky clean track records. They got their money through good practice, tolerance and altruism.
It’s like the “sack the manager” calls from fans of all clubs. They tend to shut up when asked the phenomenally rare and complex question “Who would you like to replace him?” “Fat Sam or Tony Pulis could do a job” is usually trotted out to universal derision. And neither of them are complicit in drugs, slavey, extortion, murder, organised crime etc etc etc.
You might not like your landlord but he could be 1000 times worse.
Wasn’t 80 million. 80 million over about 5 years I feel isn’t really the same level of investment as it looks on paper
Now that we have formally withdrawn I’d like to see FSG front up and admit they did the wrong thing and apologise to the fansbase.
If they hide then they will never be forgiven.
Why not one of them. All these big clubs have them lads in charge.
I’m confused by this. Wary of them for lack of investment in the squad? But then also wanting them out for being part of the proposed ESL - a move designed to boost revenue?
As fans we need to think about what we want. If we want investment in the squad at the top end, then we need accompanying revenue at the top end. With good management at all levels you can punch slightly above your weight, and our recent title and CL triumph might be seen as that, but over time you will revert to your station in the pecking order.
I think the ESL roll out has been cack handed, to say the least, so it is dying before it ever took flight. But the reasons for its proposal won’t go away, so it will be back in some other guise.
Last weekend I was in the garden with my kids. The ball went into the ditch and as I went to get it back. I fell hitting my forehead. Unfortunately, it left a bruise that resembled a dick and two balls. Got all the dickhead jokes from my family.
Despite of all this, and having to go to work with this bruise,. I bet I feel less foolish than John Henry.
He’s a bloody good striker though!
But yes, the point is well made, a would-be new owner, rich enough and moral enough…
Nope. Can’t think of one. If it is a capitalist, they will buy us for a return on investment. At best, something like FSG, at worst, something like H&G. Capitalists doing their thing.
Or the other model is some sort of sports-washing owner, oligarch, sovereign wealth fund. More skeletons in their closet than you can shake a stick at.
Unless there’s a massive reset, and fan ownership or some such thing comes into play across the Prem, securing better owners than FSG might be very hard to do. However, if they choose to leave, that won’t be their concern as at that point they will feel run out of town, so they will take a big cheque from someone and move on. Saudis aren’t in football yet are they?
Can we have the 50+1 rule adapted here or not?
The knives are out for FSG now after that statement.
There are no good owners, they all have their self interests. Maybe, we should look eastwards after having 2 American owners. I am not saying change of owners now, but it will happen at some point.
Ok so the drama is over?
Yeah I really don’t see any way back for FSG. But the harsh reality, I don’t think they really care.
FSG out, but who’ can afford to buy the club, especially after the pandemic and new investment from Lebron and Co. Everyone is hurting financially, and I don’t want Oil money, because those folks over there aren’t anything better. I don’t want any Far East money either, there’s so many example of them buying clubs as a tool to launder money. Right now we need stability more so than ever. I would like to see supporters to have a small stake in the club. If the are involved, at least the decision making and what happens would be more transparent.
I hope there’s a genuine buyer that cares about tradition and history of the club that would aquire us. However, at the moment it’s just a fantasy. No matter if FSG stays or go, we have to support the players and the club through this.
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FSG are fine. They’ve fucked up a few times, but on the whole, they took us back to the top by being smart owners. Most clubs aren’t so lucky. This will all blow over eventually, and I expect them to be even less public than they are now. The FSG out crowd need to settle down, or we could very quickly find ourselves back in the mediocrity wilderness. At least FSG don’t throw gay people off of tall buildings ffs.
FSG isn’t going anywhere. Attention spans are too short. Within a month, all everyone will be talking about is whether we’ve finished Top 4 and then talking about who we’ll sign this summer.
If anything, maybe FSG will loosen up the purse strings this summer and make a big signing designed to bring the supporters back into the fold.
Here’s what I think.
In all due respect to the great man, Shanks was wrong. Who signs the cheques DOES matter.
I’ve worked for great leaders. I’ve worked for bad leaders. The people at the top of the organization - any organization, including LFC - matters.
Anyone who doesn’t believe this, ask yourself, would you want Mike Ashley as the owner of this club? What if he owned it for 30 years and sucked all the money out of it? You don’t think it would matter? Sunderland was once one of the biggest clubs in the country. Preston North End was one of the most succesful. You think it’s impossible that that could not happen to us?
I am deeply disappointed in FSG and this ridiculous Super League. They have embarrassed us.
But though they are business people first, I do NOT believe they would destroy this club simply for profit. That is not their MO. They have NOT taken money out of this club.
I saw Souness saying their plan all along was to create the Super League then sell it two years later for double the value. Sorry, I don’t believe it. I don’t think he understands these people. They wouldn’t have taken the capital from Redbird to create a series of feeder clubs just to sell out a few years later. That’s not how the world of finance works.
That doesn’t mean FSG hasn’t fucked up. They have. And in a shocking, completely tone deaf way.
But a house divided cannot stand. Whatever the outcome, this makes me very sad, because I want Liverpool FC to be successful. And we won’t be successful if we are divided.
FSG are not perfect owners, far from it. But they have largely been respectful of the club and the fans. Not always but they always try to stay out of footballing matters on the field as in they let the experts do what they do. But off field, surely they have every right to make decisions especially in areas of income and financial sustainability. Granted, they may not have made the best decisions at time. But as owners, they have been pretty good.
Cant see the premier league docking points. I mean that’s like saying we wont let you leave at any cost but now that you’re staying we’re going to beat you with a stick.
What’s the alternative to FSG? Saudi Arabia? If you talk about FSG ruining the clubs image and history I think being associated with the Saudis would be worse. We’ve also seen what happens with untrustworthy Chinese investors as in the case of Inter Milan and domestically as well.
FSG was definitely in the wrong. And that’s the sad part. There was no need to rock the boat. We just had to see out this crazy season and then come back stronger next season with the fans back in the stadium. Idiotic. Now you’ll have FSG out chants every game next season until we get sold to an unknown.