exactly this… people need to understand that signing top players costs a lot of money and under current model LFC jus cannot compete financially…Uefa is greedy, so is the the PL… paying Burnley and LFC same amount is jus BS. why cant the model include teams being able to stream their own games so as to generate more money?
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Exactly. Would they be looking at those with a L4 address or take in the wider Liverpool area.Would you need to prove you’re a Liverpool fc supporter?
I can’t see it happening myself,the cost would be too much as they’d want a decent price for half the club.
And yet when it came to the ESL he was completely oblivious to the differences between the Red Sox and LFC.
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The same UEFA who kept telling everyone there was no money available? Then magically found £4bil available when threatened with losing their cash cows? Ya them pricks…
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I’m not so sure that John Henry was taken in. FSG may not have shared all the objectives of the other participants but it joined because it saw it as the best opportunity to obtain it’s objectives (the ones it set out before buying Liverpool):
- controlling/selling its own broadcasting rights
- an effective implementation of FFP
- a player salary cap
It is unlikely that any of these can be achieved in the near future under the current regimes.
FSG’s mistake was in failing to consult the manager and the players for their views before taking the decision to commit to the ESL. Had they done so they might have recognised that the proposed “closed shop” was totally unacceptable and thereby avoided the enormous PR disaster it turned out to be.
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An interesting watch is Johnny Barnes talksport interview on the recent events.
Don’t get me wrong,i’m not saying John Henry was totally blameless in all this or was blindly led into it,i’m just saying there are more leading figures in this whole farce,alot more wiser,higher up and knowledgable of the european game than him,that probably sweet talked him into joining the group and not realising the football community backlash that was going to happen off the back of it.
Also the fact that it was done half arsed with nothing set in stone,no legal paperwork,no real rules,nobody knowing other than the owners,also leads me to believe it was just a quick fuck you to UEFA to let them know what will or could happen in the future if they carry on dictating new rules,laws and holding back revenues.
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I agree, it was definitely rushed out in order to beat UEFA to the punch. I am still of the mind that for some participants (ourselves included) it was never intended to be anything other than a negotiating ploy.
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How ironic is it that not a single Liverpool supporter would object to these objectives. Pursuing them through ESL however was the worst possible way to go about it.
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Question is, is/was there any other way to achieve those?
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Under the present regimes UEFA/PL, as currently configured, almost certainly not.
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Fundamental changes would be required in the governing bodies and leagues. They would actually have to act in football’s best interest instead of their own and even if a majority was obtained among their members, clubs that would stand to lose a lot, would fiercely contest it.
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We all know what needs to happen. Question is, do we see it happening, at all.
I think UEFA will grant more leeway to the Legacy Clubs (can I copyright it @Kopstar 
) in the new CL format and it will be business as usual.
There’s this concept of a very deep rabbit hole…
Season ticket holder?
Other match going fans?
Annual TV subscribers who spend $$$$$ on merch and tour games?
Youtube video channels?
Fans forums? Their members?
I don’t and never have seen how it could possibly work. Just because it works in Germany does not mean it would work here. In some German bars, your tab is marked on your beermat and you pay at the end of the night. Not a scheme you’d implement here in a hurry.
Recent fuck-up aside, leave FSG to it and don’t rock the boat. I appreciate I’m in a minority here.
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No, the worst possible way to achieve it involved tanks, a naked Katie Price and Boris singing YNWA.
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The irony is that those objectives would likely be massively popular, and not only to Liverpool supporters, if he/FSG would actively and publicly take the lead on them instead of working behind the backs of literally all other stakeholders.
Oops! 
I think this is over-thinking it a bit. The club already has a membership scheme, which AFAIK is how it works everywhere else.
Actually acquiring the 50+1 stake is the hard part, and unfortunately I don’t think that genie will ever go back into that bottle via anything short of a total system meltdown. The implementation of the 50+1 rule in Germany was actually an opening of the clubs to investment, where previously they were 100% member-owned and operated.
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My anger towards him has subsided somewhat, whatever he was smoking wasn’t good but he at least realised this was done with the other English clubs, he wasn’t still pretending this could continue at 11pm last night like Perez stated.
Who knows if Henry would be good running a league, Perez wouldn’t be though, that’s for sure.
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