It goes further than the term used for people of colour, unfortunately, see the BBC article:
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And a quick note, making a mistake is not the issue. It happens to everyone. Not making an effort to learn from it definitely is.
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This is a very significant resignation. He was clearly gumming up the proposal by LFC and MUFC for PL reform and it will be very interesting whether his replacement plays a more constructive public role. It is clear that the FL will desperately need funding help beyond what the PL has offered as the pandemic makes it certain that they won’t have any gate revenue this season.
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Meaning no disrespect but THE telling point for me is that my mixed race mate and all the other mixed race preferred to refer to himself/themselves as coloured. It wasn’t a white thing.
Now how/why did that change is what I find interesting. So the fact the anecdote is 50 years/half a century/five decades ago 2 score years and ten means squat.
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There’s a few on here I find very condescending when it comes to views on politics/PC etc. It’s almost as if they have to find/search for a reason to be offended by a matter of fact post/statement which has no hidden agenda.
Very sad world we live in.
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What is your problem?
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Well when CNN called Native voters Something Else…
But I guess his resignation is not just one comment, he did make a number of comments that probably build up to this.
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I don’t have a problem. But if you are referring to my post I think my thoughts are quite clearly stated. There’s no swearing or insults included in my thoughts. Did I offend you?
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I guess in some ways, it sounds different when you say I welcome colored people instead of saying I welcome people of all colors? The 2nd statement is more inclusive to me because calling colored people is like its white vs other colors when white is also a…color.
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Lets not jump to conclusions the resignation was probably really about VAR.
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And therein lies the rub. As I mentioned previously, apparently some folk now find the expression “BAME” unacceptable:
So, almost as soon as an expression, intended to be non-pejorative, has been coined, it becomes pejorative (to some).
Perhaps we should drop any and all references to colour or ethnicity etc., when referring to a person, but I suspect that doing so will cause offence to somebody. 
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Exactly. Labelling is a problem full stop. Why the need to categorise at all? The difficulty is the reality that there remains prejudice against identifiable demographics. In order to address that we need to be able to identify where and why this is occurring and who it affects, that requires some manner of identification.
If we lost that entirely it becomes impossible to determine where things are going wrong and what’s needed to correct them. However, that then leads to potential offence because every individual is different and many people don’t wish to be grouped in terms of their physical characteristics or where they’re from etc (understandably). We all want to be recognised for who we are as individuals.
I’m a number of things. I could accurately be described as white, heterosexual, married, middle aged, slightly overweight, greying, average height, agnostic, English, British, right-handed, a lawyer, middle class. I could equally be described as the son of an immigrant, from a broken home, from an economically disadvantaged background, went to a charity school, disabled, having mental health issues.
The second list might, in some circles, be considered characteristics that might disadvantage me compared to the first but I take more pride in owning them than those on the earlier list. The point is that nobody wants to be seen as any “one” thing. It’s true that I am white but I’m also the other things as well. We’re all made up of beautifully different constituents.
But sometimes it is just one that’s causing us to be disadvantaged because of personal and/or institutional prejudice and that does need to be identified with a label. It becomes nonsensical if we can’t use normal and easily understood adjectives for this purpose and shouldn’t be seen as “othering” in that context because the objective is to find solutions to prejudice, not perpetuate it. The purpose is to include not exclude.
As you say though, whatever word is used to describe a specific demographic will find some objection because people don’t like to be thought of as being only one characteristic. Equally, words do take on new meanings over time so what was once acceptable may not remain so. It can definitely be difficult to keep up (I’m almost terrified to discuss the issue of gender for fear of causing inadvertent offence).
We need constant education, particularly for those in prominent positions able to influence and drive change. Clarke should have known better.
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The one that gets under my skin is ‘racialized’, because of the clear implication that something has been done to the subject. In one sense, there is a truth in there, but as a characterization of a community it is pointless.
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It boils down to the old adage that you can’t please all the people all the time; no matter what you do, someone will complain.
Usually me.
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I think the one thing we can all agree on is that most people are inconsiderate arseholes.
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From what I can see there are two perceived issues with the term.
One is a fairly trivial one in the naming given that it identifies black and asian people as separate from ethnic minorities.
The other is that it is a term that is designed for specific usage but then is often used in the wrong context. For instance, if we’re talking about lack of representation in football, then the issue is white vs non-white and BAME (ignoring the issue with point 1) is a appropriate for that framing. The issue becomes is you treat an individual as a member of the BAME community, which is meaningless and robs the conversation of the context of their specific community.
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What is exactly the point of Portugal playing bloody Andorra in a friendly?
To pump Ronaldo’s numbers up?
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Iberian culture exchange.
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If he wants to, yes. He can do anything on a football pitch.
Where’s the ex reds thread hiding these days?
Just wanted to wish Monster well in his retirement. One of my all time fav players.
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