The Random Football Debate Thread

Yeah I think he ended up on loan in none league.

There was a lad in the MLS who seemed to have a decent career there.

But other than that it’s pretty sparse. Though of course I know of several.

Obviously it is a person’s own business as to whether they choose to come out, but do you have any insight into why the ones in football that you know of prefer to stay in the closet?

I could be way wide of the mark as a heterosexual man, but I honestly thought the whole issue was much further along these days? In other words, if someone came out, they would receive support and respect for doing so? That’s the impression I have. Of course, there might be some idiots who would attempt to have a go, but I would imagine they would quickly be shouted down by the vast majority of people who want to live and let live.

I could be way too optimistic in my assessment, but if you have any insight as to why the ones you know of are keeping it on the down low, I’d be interested to hear. Thanks.

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From what I know and this is really only one conversation it is the crowds, more away than home also he felt he would be put on a pedestal.

There are relationships within clubs. It will probably come out as a group one day but yeah it’s still the unsavoury aspects according to them. Though that fanbase of the individual aren’t one I’d say was a massively bad one.

That was 2007 as well for my Uni mag, we never put it out which is a shame but more due to the fact the lad didn’t want it out there.

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We often like to think that talent is so undeniable that all it takes is to be good enough for your face to fit, but pros know it is anything but that. Everyone will have experienced a player’s status in the club changing dramatically overnight with the introduction of a new manager, and often for reasons that aren’t all that clear why. No matter how much faith a gay player has in their current team mates and coaching staff, they know situations in football are very fluid and are aware that sooner or later there will be a new guy and he may well be a total fucking dinosaur.

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Ballon d’Or.
What a nauseating and embarrassing spectacle.

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Ademola Lookman :joy:

And maybe I’m just ignorant but I’ve never even heard of Vitinha.

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ex Wolves, current PSG player.

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Sounds like he should definitely be up for the Ballon d’Or given all the succes those clubs have enjoyed :joy:

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Sounds like a piece of furniture.

‘Where’s my pincushion?’

‘I believe you left it in the Vitinha, Madam’

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Rodri should probably win it.

There’s an Egyptian lad who plays for Liverpool who is head and shoulders above a lot of these… very odd omission.

Anyway, it’s all a load of corporate nonsense, the Oscars for football. Complete twoddle.

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In all, 113 different score lines have been achieved in more than 135 years of league football (when considering, for example, winning 12-2 being different from losing 2-12). Before the start of the 2024/25 season, the following clubs have achieved the most of these score lines:

Winning 1-0 (33,957 matches): 442 times - Burnley
Winning 2-0 (24,262 matches): 382 times - Liverpool
Winning 2-1 (30,503 matches): 418 times - Sheffield United
Winning 3-0 (12,947 matches): 227 times - Liverpool
Winning 3-1 (15,320 matches): 253 times - Manchester City
Winning 3-2 (9,525 matches): 158 times - Manchester United
Winning 4-0 (5,614 matches): 131 times - Liverpool
Winning 4-1 (6,555 matches): 117 times - Arsenal
Winning 4-2 (3,888 matches): 75 times - Manchester City
Winning 4-3 (1,671 matches): 32 times - Liverpool
Winning 5-0 (2,338 matches): 59 times - Manchester United
Winning 5-1 (2,533 matches): 54 times - Manchester City
Winning 5-2 (1,573 matches): 33 times - Everton
Winning 5-3 (608 matches): 15 times - Arsenal, Sheffield United, Wolverhampton Wanderers
Winning 5-4 (205 matches): eight times - Leicester City
Winning 6-0 (791 matches): 20 times - Liverpool
Winning 6-1 (964 matches): 22 times - Manchester United
Winning 6-2 (515 matches): 15 times - Aston Villa
Winning 6-3 (212 matches): eight times - West Bromwich Albion
Winning 6-4 (68 matches): five times - Plymouth Argyle, Wolverhampton Wanderers
Winning 6-5 (17 matches): two times - Grimsby Town
Winning 7-0 (292 matches): eight times - Arsenal, Fulham
Winning 7-1 (341 matches): 12 times - Aston Villa
Winning 7-2 (168 matches): seven times - Newcastle United, Sunderland
Winning 7-3 (71 matches): four times - Stockport County
Winning 7-4 (29 matches): three times - Liverpool, Watford
Winning 7-5 (seven matches): two times - Blackburn Rovers
Winning 7-6 (one match): one time - Charlton Athletic
Winning 8-0 (103 matches): six times - Arsenal
Winning 8-1 (94 matches): five times - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Winning 8-2 (49 matches): three times - Chester City
Winning 8-3 (19 matches): two times - Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Sheffield United
Winning 8-4 (five matches): one time - Accrington Stanley, Barnsley, Blackpool, Everton, Leicester City
Winning 8-5 (three matches): one time - Burton Swifts, Derby County, Stockport County
Winning 9-0 (37 matches): four times - Manchester United
Winning 9-1 (34 matches): three times - Blackburn Rovers, Wolverhampton Wanderers
Winning 9-2 (25 matches): two times - Mansfield Town, Middlesbrough, Nottingham Forest
Winning 9-3 (10 matches): one time - Brighton & Hove Albion, Burnley, Darwen, Derby County, Everton, Hartlepool United, Luton Town, Manchester City, Southampton, Tottenham Hotspur
Winning 9-4 (two matches): one time - Bristol City, Gillingham
Winning 10-0 (16 matches): two times - Aston Villa, Sheffield United
Winning 10-1 (11 matches): one time - Birmingham City, Fulham, Gateshead, Hartlepool United, Huddersfield Town, Hull City, Liverpool, Manchester City, Manchester United, Wolverhampton Wanderers, Wrexham
Winning 10-2 (six matches): one time - Birmingham City, Darwen, Fulham, Luton Town, Norwich City, Reading
Winning 10-3 (three matches): one time - Hull City, Middlesbrough, Stoke City
Winning 10-4 (one match): one time - Tottenham Hotspur
Winning 11-0 (one match): one time - Oldham Athletic
Winning 11-1 (seven matches): one time - Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Bradford City, Hull City, Lincoln City, Notts County, Tranmere Rovers
Winning 11-2 (two matches): one time - Oldham Athletic, Sheffield United
Winning 11-3 (one match): one time - Manchester City
Winning 12-0 (eight matches): two times - Birmingham City
Winning 12-1 (one match): one time - Barrow
Winning 12-2 (one match): one time - Aston Villa
Winning 13-0 (two matches): one time - Newcastle United, Stockport County
Winning 13-4 (one match): one time - Tranmere Rovers

Drawing 0-0 (14,992 matches): 397 times - Preston North End
Drawing 1-1 (24,161 matches): 624 times - Nottingham Forest
Drawing 2-2 (10,715 matches): 298 times - Leicester City
Drawing 3-3 (2,336 matches): 72 times - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Drawing 4-4 (321 matches): 14 times - Tottenham Hotspur
Drawing 5-5 (39 matches): three times - Aston Villa, Blackburn Rovers, Grimsby Town, West Ham United
Drawing 6-6 (two matches): one time - Arsenal, Charlton Athletic, Leicester City, Middlesbrough

Losing 0-1 (33,957 matches): 461 times - Birmingham City
Losing 0-2 (24,262 matches): 339 times - Port Vale
Losing 0-3 (12,947 matches): 183 times - Leyton Orient
Losing 0-4 (5,614 matches): 81 times - Lincoln City
Losing 0-5 (2,338 matches): 38 times - Burnley
Losing 0-6 (791 matches): 18 times - Notts County
Losing 0-7 (292 matches): 10 times - Barnsley
Losing 0-8 (103 matches): four times - Birmingham City, Nottingham Forest, Sunderland, Tranmere Rovers
Losing 0-9 (37 matches): three times - Darwen
Losing 0-10 (16 matches): three times - Darwen
Losing 0-11 (one match): one time - Southport
Losing 0-12 (eight matches): two times - Walsall
Losing 0-13 (two matches): one time - Halifax Town, Newport County
Losing 1-2 (30,503 matches): 408 times - Notts County
Losing 1-3 (15,320 matches): 212 times - Notts County
Losing 1-4 (6,555 matches): 102 times - Grimsby Town
Losing 1-5 (2,533 matches): 52 times - Notts County
Losing 1-6 (964 matches): 20 times - Crewe Alexandra
Losing 1-7 (341 matches): eight times - Birmingham City, Burnley, Derby County, Port Vale
Losing 1-8 (94 matches): four times - West Bromwich Albion
Losing 1-9 (34 matches): three times - Notts County
Losing 1-10 (11 matches): two times - Blackpool
Losing 1-11 (seven matches): one time - Carlisle United, Charlton Athletic, Crewe Alexandra, Durham City, Glossop, Newport County, Rotherham United
Losing 1-12 (one match): one time - Gateshead
Losing 2-3 (9,525 matches): 144 times - Wolverhampton Wanderers
Losing 2-4 (3,888 matches): 65 times - Sheffield Wednesday
Losing 2-5 (1,573 matches): 29 times - Blackburn Rovers
Losing 2-6 (515 matches): 13 times - Leicester City
Losing 2-7 (168 matches): eight times - York City
Losing 2-8 (49 matches): four times - Leicester City
Losing 2-9 (25 matches): two times - Lincoln City
Losing 2-10 (six matches): two times - Torquay United
Losing 2-11 (two matches): one time - Cardiff City, Chester City
Losing 2-12 (one match): one time - Accrington
Losing 3-4 (1,671 matches): 32 times - Bolton Wanderers
Losing 3-5 (608 matches): 16 times - Middlesbrough
Losing 3-6 (212 matches): nine times - Cardiff City
Losing 3-7 (71 matches): four times - Darlington, Everton
Losing 3-8 (19 matches): two times - Burnley, Leicester City
Losing 3-9 (10 matches): one time - Lincoln City, Loughborough, Port Vale, Sheffield Wednesday, Stoke City, Swindon Town, Tranmere Rovers, Walsall, West Bromwich Albion, Wolverhampton Wanderers
Losing 3-10 (three matches): one time - Sheffield United, West Bromwich Albion, Wolverhampton Wanderers
Losing 3-11 (one match): one time - Lincoln City
Losing 4-5 (205 matches): five times - Arsenal, Sheffield Wednesday, Stockport County, West Ham United
Losing 4-6 (68 matches): three times - Derby County, Preston North End
Losing 4-7 (29 matches): two times - Ashington, Gillingham, Manchester United, Portsmouth, Swansea City
Losing 4-8 (five matches): one time - Charlton Athletic, Fulham, Lincoln City, Manchester City, Plymouth Argyle
Losing 4-9 (two matches): one time - Exeter City, Gillingham
Losing 4-10 (one match): one time - Everton
Losing 4-13 (one match): one time - Oldham Athletic
Losing 5-6 (17 matches): two times - Crewe Alexandra, Newcastle United, Sunderland
Losing 5-7 (seven matches): one time - Aston Villa, Birmingham City, Mansfield Town, Millwall, Reading, Sheffield United, Tottenham Hotspur
Losing 5-8 (three matches): one time - Blackburn Rovers, Chester City, Walsall
Losing 6-7 (one match): one time - Huddersfield Town

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I dont know where to put this, so trying here

He scored 15 goals in all comps last year. WTF is he talking about?

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Tbf if I’d seen some of the names on that list, upset wouldn’t even begin to cut it.

Dani Olmo :rofl:
Vitinha :rofl:
Lookman and Palmer :man_facepalming:

The guy probably isn’t ever going to do Salah numbers but being overlooked as a regular who helped helped Madrid win the big 2…

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Well that is our chance of signing him screwed.

If he can’t get nominated playing in that Madrid team, then playing for Liverpool definitely means he won’t get nominated

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Imagine being upset by a shitty award snub.

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TBF it’s slightly better than being upset with a birthday cake snub lol

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Depends which cake they promised.

Colin the Caterpillar, Yaya was fully justified lol

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Time to gamble, proudly sponsored by Ladbrokes.

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