The Referees or The Twelfth Man

I think the reaction has been the opposite he has been lambasted by all on social media and by so called pundits.

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remember Jota not getting a penalty becuase he ā€˜slowed down to take a shot’…

Kane on Robbo another poor one… funny how we cant even be bothered mentioning the farcical ā€˜good process lads’ one either…

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The contact on Gakpo, in the box, for a penalty claim is a non starter because the ball had gone before the contact. You don’t get penalties awarded under those circumstances.

Oh, wait.

Twats

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If I was Iraola I would be bringing that up in the next interview about consistency, or the lack of.

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Oh yes. He’ll probably bring it up in a much more calm and dignified way than I’d be able to.

It’s wild how they manage to not follow the presedence set less than a week ago. But I shouldn’t be surprised, it’s Darren England. Good process, once again.

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You know youve got a case when an ex Man Utd player is arguing your case.

In this specific example from yesterday, it’s further evidence that gross incompetence exists alongside the many examples of dowright fucking bias and corruption.

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It’s the latest episode of a referee being absolutely desperate to be seen as one of the lads. It’s ridiculous really.

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Don’t often agree with Keane but he sums it up perfectly there. Just be consistent ffs or tell us that opponents will be getting those penalties and we won’t. That way we know. For me, neither of them are pens because the play was already completed and contact after incidental. The actual rule says that for a penalty to be awarded after the play then the contact has to be reckless.

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I’m 90% sure that’s one of those made up AI written quotes from ā€œKeaneā€

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But, it’s off Facebook !!!

I just saw this again, and the defender slides in from the back, both feet off the ground and wipes Gakpo out:

Penalty aside, wouldn’t that at least justify a yellow card? By the defender’s reaction, he clearly realises that he fucked it up bad style.

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Maybe a red?
How can a player get wiped out like that and the ref just waved play on as if nothing happened?

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In which case, shouldn’t VAR have been involved as well?

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Yeah it was late enough and so needless that I don’t you could complain if it was a red. And that drives home the absurdity of the contrast with last week given how trivial the contact was with neco
. It isn’t just that similar challenges resulted in different decisions (it’s always going to happen), it’s that the reckless one is the one that was waved away

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Whether you agree with the decision last week given how soft the actual contact looked, the argument done fans have tried to make that the ball was already played and so cannot be a penalty is a poor argument. The rules are quite clear that a penalty decision does not get influenced by whether the ball has already been played or not.

This Cody non-decision is an absolute joke though. Fans want to see consistency. You can’t have consistency if the on-field refs are refereeing very very differently from one game to the next, and on top of that setting the rules so that VAR is so light-touch as to be useless.

If VAR had the power to intervene in this situation, not only could we receive much greater consistency from one match to the next, but it would also expose any corruption within the decision making: if VAR can overturn the on field ref and they don’t on a blatant call like Gakpo’s, then the alarm bells should be ringing. Right now the whole Ref-VAR dynamic is a circular reference PGMOL are using to shield themselves from scrutiny. Scum.

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They are consistent.

they are consistently against us.

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They are consistently for themselves which I think is the bigger problem.

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and in terms of diversity, because that can always be a useful tool to break up cliques, has there been a black pl ref since uriah rennie?

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One, but I’m not sure he’s in the top group anymore

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Whether Gakpo had just ā€˜split-second’ released the ball or not, or whether he had released it 5mins earlier and was stood there… if a guy comes clattering into him, and it’s in the box… then it has to be a foul, thus penalty…
By the referee waving play on, no foul… then by same logic… If Alisson was about to launch the ball upfield because there was only Isak and opposing defender in the oppositions half… but then Isak decides to slide into this defender to wipe him out so he couldn’t then be challenged by him… the referee should wave play on should he not… or in all likelihood… he would blow for a foul…!
Every contentious decision we witness each matchday, further demonstrates; to me anyway; the job of managing the PGMOL is too big a job for a clueless numpty like Howie Webb…
There needs to be more accountability, because the officials are actually ruining the game for a lot of fans.

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