For me there is massive differences in Jones and Gustos red, Gusto left his feet and is what some term out of control, whereas Jones is on his feet, Gusto also followed through with his tackle, whereas Joneses contact was caused through his contact on the ball with no intent to follow through.
But hey ho, the authorities feel the only consideration is excessive force is because of how the ankle bent, we all see great tackles where excessive force is used beautifully, with rightly no foul or card given, the refereeing/game authorities are ruining the game as they donāt have a clue about the āfootballingā side of the game and challenging for the ball,
Same here, the handball one is a load of tosh, saying that it was unnatural, you see the arm in that position loads of times when a player lunges to stop or block a cross.
I am at a total loss on the handball rule.
Owen is such a weak presenter, they need someone with mongrel in them to challenge what Webb is saying, also he is an attacker what does he know about tackling
We have a catch 22 situation with Alpha Thicko Webbā¦ You are right, Souness or Keane would be ideal to put him through the wringer and expose him for the bull-shitter, and highlight the cowardly manner he protects his own persona, above the integrity of the gameā¦ thing is, Alpha Thicko Webb appears before Owen, because that guy is easy to manipulate, and a lot easier to direct away from being subjected to any risk of interrogation.
Goldbridge appears to be a lone voice in this. And itās only highlighted how PGMOL get away with this level of corruption/incompetence.
The problem is tribalism. To me itās staggering how fans of other clubs have turned on Liverpool over this. As if weāve contested something as commonplace as a bad decision? Itās ridiculous.
Fucking whining scousers. Yes VAR ruled it a legitimate goal, but through a mix of incompetence and bowing to protocol, contrived to deny them the goal, and changed the likely outcome of the match. But three years ago, I remember Liverpool should have had a player sent off against us but the referee thought it was a yellow.
Liverpool have put their heads above the parapet on this. Although itās gone quiet now, I hope it isnāt the end of it. But I really doubt anything will change as long as football fans are as up their own arses as they are. Goldbridge is one of the few who has correctly said that itās about football, not Liverpool.
Alternatively - Yes VAR ruined a legitimate goal, but what about the time we had a perfectly legitimate penalty called against us and VAR did not overturn it. See, we can be mad about decisions we dont like as well.
I really appreciate being told to āget over itā by Spurs fans, whilst simultaneously being told it wasnāt fair that Liverpool got penalty in a European Cup final five years ago.
Yeah, but it was never a penalty
It was
Yeah, but it was so bad they changed the rule the next year so that offense wouldnt have counted anymore
So the ref was right to give the penalty?
No, but, you seeā¦
And that was not the rule change. That would still be a penalty in UEFA competition todat and probably in the prem as well
Fucking Scousers, always moaning.
Iām surprised the slimey fucker came out from behind his desk to be honest but holy shit heās done exactly as expected. āNothing to see, all good, no change needed, we are perfect.ā
And Owen? Well Sky are balls deep in this with the PGMOL. Iām not surprised they just let Webb sit on his little pedestal and spout bullshit.
Personally in my mind none of this gets resolved until the PGMOL is torn open, are made accountable and the current crop of so called referees are long gone and offiating nothing more than tiddlywinks. I honestly hope we donāt just let this lie.
I am not actually shocked at the Jones red. Watching it live it looked a yellow, when the ref got called to the screen, I thought it looked nasty (yes freeze frame is a shit way of presenting the challenge), but itās hard to look at that and think thereās absolutely no chance itās a red.
Itās clear Jones never meant for contact like that to happen, so in effect this sort of challenge could happen to the nicest player on the pitch. But the point is you can still see red even when there is no intent and luck conspires against you.
However, every football watcher should be fuming seeing these two red card tackles and also Kovacic still running around after what he did in the same week. That is frankly disgusting. I am at a point where I actually wished City won and we were an extra 3 points behind so that City-boy Arteta and the rest of Arsenal would be forced to challenge it. Unfortunately without them seeing a great injustice in it, the outrage by everyone else is meaningless. PGMOL just wonāt take action.
